I was intrigued by the story regarding Bealefeld and the youths who got busted with the pot. He brought them home to their mother and, upon finding out it was the day of their grandmother's funeral, let them go with a verbal ass rip. Focusing on the drugs is not the right way to go about it.
I do agree that it was leftist propaganda. I couldn't help but think that the focus on "bad guys with guns" begged the question...who defines who is "bad?"
Of course, the 400 pound elephant in the room is this:
This is actually interesting for two reasons. One, it torpedoes any notion that more guns means more violence. Two, it completely demonstrates how irrational and fearful our country has become even in the face of statistical fact.
Two, it completely demonstrates how irrational and fearful our country has become even in the face of statistical fact.
Jesus Christ on a gorramed pogostick... Even in comments where you start off sounding borderline reasonable, you have to wrap it all up with incorrigible, nonsensical, partisan bullshit.
1. You are making bald-faced assumptions as to the reasonings behind the purchases. If you are not, I would love to see your studies.
2. If a person promises to do something, damned if people do not occasionally believe him. Granted, the "him" in this case has proven to be a spineless liar, but one might as well plan for the worst.
2. a. If a person promises to assist in imposing laws stopping the legal transfer of certain items you wish to possess, the logical response is to purchase those items while it is still legal to do so. This is not 'fear', this is 'planning ahead'.
3. Speaking anecdotally/personally, I have purchased two firearms in the past year, and aquired a third through family. None of them were purchased due to "fear" - for Heaven's sake, one is a single-action open-top revolver!
Sadly, this post almost showed promise... but then that cranial-rectal-impaction habit you have took over.
I couldn't help but think that the focus on "bad guys with guns" begged the question...who defines who is "bad?"
That's easy: They're the ones with violent criminal records.
One, it torpedoes any notion that more guns means more violence. Two, it completely demonstrates how irrational and fearful our country has become even in the face of statistical fact.
That depends on what all those guns were purchased for, doesn't it? Since November of 2008 I have personally purchased five firearms, and I've had one more on order for over a year now. That's about three more than average for me (not including the one on order.) They weren't bought out of fear.
But the Feds tend not to prosecute most of these cases - they would "clog the courts" as Janet Reno once said.
This may be true, but they have a much better history of it than local government. When the NRA got together with prosecutors to go after these gun offenders in Richmond, Philly, etc., they always team up with the Feds because the locals won't give them the time of day.
"In a country of about 270 million people, there are over 200 million guns - 65-70 million of which are handguns - and these numbers are climbing. Forty-four million Americans - or 25% of all adults and 38% of American households - possess at least one gun."
Sweet! But why is he saying that like it's a bad thing?
"It has refused to make guns safer."
As opposed to the British method of making knives safer? Gravity makes a lot of things dangerous. Perhaps we should ban that.
As the joke goes about the Mosin-Nagant, "Is not SAFE. Is GUN!"
Dan F, hadn't heard that one but it is SO true! The Mosin-Nagant makes no pretensions as to what it is: an honest weapon-of-war. So ugly only its designers could love it. It's why I own 4 of them: a 91/30, M44, M91/59 and a 1935 91/30 sniper. You use the "safety" on a M-N as a hand strengthing exercise in the absence of proper equipment.
The sight of a 91/30 with bayonet affixed (aka "pike") is enough to make any authoritarian, nanny statist leftist faint dead away. Also good for keeping hippies clear of the property line.
Sort of like the sheriff who, when asked if he was wearing his sidearm because he expected trouble that night, replied "If I was EXPECTING trouble, I'd have the shotgun."
...Two, it completely demonstrates how irrational and fearful our country has become even in the face of statistical fact.
Crime down and people buy more guns? Why? Not because they are irrationally following the wrong statistical facts, but because they are fearful of the other facts.
You're conflating violent crime with political crime.
"...how irrational and fearful..." Assuming facts not in evidence. Similarly, the rise or decline in the purchase of, what, shoes...fishing rods...breakfast cereals...what, indicate other emotional states? What is the baseline metric for anxiety? Euphoria? Fearlessness? Prudence? Dated from when? I suggest that the rise in boat ownership here is MN, and the change from aluminum outboards steered by the motor handle, to today's zillion horsepower, GPS, sonar fish finding, live well mansions on the water is directly proportional to an increased fear of drowning in water, and is indirectly proportional to a reduction in rabies in humans. Your state is next.
If we give Mr. Bean a gun, into what historical mass murderer will he instantly, and irrevocably morph? Alternately, disarming the Jews was a good idea, Ya?
A clarification is in order on this: We have an inner-city RACIAL crime problem.
Let's call it for what it is.
I spent 10 years sailing out of Bawlmer, Murlin, and 5 years "houseboating" the gray hulls in her harbor, so I am fairly familiar with "Charm City's" crime problems.
Bilgeman, our inner cities are predominately populated by blacks, but the crime problem is elevated there for all races. For whatever reasons the inner cities are where America's black population is concentrated. Race is merely a marker. The problem is, as I detailed in the link, the CULTURE of the inner-city blacks.
Nifty little interactive map by the Baltimore Sun at the link. I'm sure you've seen it, but it bears review, especially since they're keeping it current.
That is a GREAT map. When you play with the different input modifiers the variance in homicides according to race is astounding!. I thought that the rate for homicides for blacks would drop if I raised the age. Not so much.....
187 murders in all age groups. The next highest is whites with 16, hispanics with 7. Now, figure in the ratios according to population. (I can't do it.) WTF? Why are black males killing each other so much? I knew that the crime rate was bad, but THIS? Btw, black females had 20. Whites, 17. ???????
And the NAACP chastises Cosby when he brings it up.....
My understandingf is that "Hispanic" in Baltimore (Nancy Pelosi's hometown - she's NOT a Califoirnian) predominantly means Puerto Rican, not Mexican as in California or The West...
In Bawlmer nowadays it's far more the case that "Hispanic" would mean Salvadoran, Guatemalan and Honduran.
Puerto Ricans have always been something of an oddity in Bawlmer. most of the PR's who ventured that far south down the mid-Atlantic are upper-caste, and are as likely to grow up in a barrio or public housing as the Rockefellers...street criminals, they ain't.
Thought y'all would find that map educational.
Anyone wanna hang with the Bilgeman when I go kickin' it with my peeps along North Avenue or up Druid Hill Park?
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I was intrigued by the story regarding Bealefeld and the youths who got busted with the pot. He brought them home to their mother and, upon finding out it was the day of their grandmother's funeral, let them go with a verbal ass rip. Focusing on the drugs is not the right way to go about it.
I do agree that it was leftist propaganda. I couldn't help but think that the focus on "bad guys with guns" begged the question...who defines who is "bad?"
Of course, the 400 pound elephant in the room is this:
"Violent crime is down nationwide, despite the fact that gun sales in 2009 were the greatest ever recorded"
This is actually interesting for two reasons. One, it torpedoes any notion that more guns means more violence. Two, it completely demonstrates how irrational and fearful our country has become even in the face of statistical fact.
Two, it completely demonstrates how irrational and fearful our country has become even in the face of statistical fact.
Jesus Christ on a gorramed pogostick... Even in comments where you start off sounding borderline reasonable, you have to wrap it all up with incorrigible, nonsensical, partisan bullshit.
1. You are making bald-faced assumptions as to the reasonings behind the purchases. If you are not, I would love to see your studies.
2. If a person promises to do something, damned if people do not occasionally believe him. Granted, the "him" in this case has proven to be a spineless liar, but one might as well plan for the worst.
2. a. If a person promises to assist in imposing laws stopping the legal transfer of certain items you wish to possess, the logical response is to purchase those items while it is still legal to do so. This is not 'fear', this is 'planning ahead'.
3. Speaking anecdotally/personally, I have purchased two firearms in the past year, and aquired a third through family. None of them were purchased due to "fear" - for Heaven's sake, one is a single-action open-top revolver!
Sadly, this post almost showed promise... but then that cranial-rectal-impaction habit you have took over.
I couldn't help but think that the focus on "bad guys with guns" begged the question...who defines who is "bad?"
That's easy: They're the ones with violent criminal records.
One, it torpedoes any notion that more guns means more violence. Two, it completely demonstrates how irrational and fearful our country has become even in the face of statistical fact.
That depends on what all those guns were purchased for, doesn't it? Since November of 2008 I have personally purchased five firearms, and I've had one more on order for over a year now. That's about three more than average for me (not including the one on order.) They weren't bought out of fear.
>>. Two, it completely demonstrates how irrational and fearful our country has become even in the face of statistical fact.
And when, in your view, did the irrational fear begin, hmmm?
Say it!
Go ahead!
I dare you!
But the Feds tend not to prosecute most of these cases - they would "clog the courts" as Janet Reno once said.
This may be true, but they have a much better history of it than local government. When the NRA got together with prosecutors to go after these gun offenders in Richmond, Philly, etc., they always team up with the Feds because the locals won't give them the time of day.
"In a country of about 270 million people, there are over 200 million guns - 65-70 million of which are handguns - and these numbers are climbing. Forty-four million Americans - or 25% of all adults and 38% of American households - possess at least one gun."
Sweet! But why is he saying that like it's a bad thing?
Hmmm... Sounds like our household is slacking on gun inventory... -- Have to fix that...
First poster: Who are you, and what have you done with Markadelphia?
Aw, give a guy some warning, willya? There's hot tea all over my keyboard again!
I buy guns out of love, not fear. :)
DirtCrashr:
Out of love of country and make the government fear its people. As it should be.
"It has refused to make guns safer."
As opposed to the British method of making knives safer? Gravity makes a lot of things dangerous. Perhaps we should ban that.
As the joke goes about the Mosin-Nagant, "Is not SAFE. Is GUN!"
Dan F, hadn't heard that one but it is SO true! The Mosin-Nagant makes no pretensions as to what it is: an honest weapon-of-war. So ugly only its designers could love it. It's why I own 4 of them: a 91/30, M44, M91/59 and a 1935 91/30 sniper. You use the "safety" on a M-N as a hand strengthing exercise in the absence of proper equipment.
The sight of a 91/30 with bayonet affixed (aka "pike") is enough to make any authoritarian, nanny statist leftist faint dead away. Also good for keeping hippies clear of the property line.
... keeping hippies clear of the property line ...... all without leaving the porch! :)
If you need to leave the porch, you need some more range-time, or something with a little more range...depending on the size of your property.
He was talking about keeping the hippies clear of the property line using only the mounted bayonet.
Isn't there some story about a famous Ranger who pointed out that he carries a gun because it's dangerous?
I don't go out with girls anymore
I live a life of danger
I sit in a tree and play with myself
Wee! I'm a Ranger!
Nooot exactly what I was thinking of…
Sort of like the sheriff who, when asked if he was wearing his sidearm because he expected trouble that night, replied "If I was EXPECTING trouble, I'd have the shotgun."
"Violent crime is down nationwide, despite the fact that gun sales in 2009 were the greatest ever recorded"
...Two, it completely demonstrates how irrational and fearful our country has become even in the face of statistical fact.
Crime down and people buy more guns? Why? Not because they are irrationally following the wrong statistical facts, but because they are fearful of the other facts.
You're conflating violent crime with political crime.
"...how irrational and fearful..." Assuming facts not in evidence. Similarly, the rise or decline in the purchase of, what, shoes...fishing rods...breakfast cereals...what, indicate other emotional states? What is the baseline metric for anxiety? Euphoria? Fearlessness? Prudence? Dated from when? I suggest that the rise in boat ownership here is MN, and the change from aluminum outboards steered by the motor handle, to today's zillion horsepower, GPS, sonar fish finding, live well mansions on the water is directly proportional to an increased fear of drowning in water, and is indirectly proportional to a reduction in rabies in humans. Your state is next.
If we give Mr. Bean a gun, into what historical mass murderer will he instantly, and irrevocably morph? Alternately, disarming the Jews was a good idea, Ya?
Kevin;
"We don't really have a "gun crime" problem. We have an "inner city" crime problem."
A clarification is in order on this: We have an inner-city RACIAL crime problem.
Let's call it for what it is.
I spent 10 years sailing out of Bawlmer, Murlin, and 5 years "houseboating" the gray hulls in her harbor, so I am fairly familiar with "Charm City's" crime problems.
Bilgeman, our inner cities are predominately populated by blacks, but the crime problem is elevated there for all races. For whatever reasons the inner cities are where America's black population is concentrated. Race is merely a marker. The problem is, as I detailed in the link, the CULTURE of the inner-city blacks.
Nifty little interactive map by the Baltimore Sun at the link. I'm sure you've seen it, but it bears review, especially since they're keeping it current.
http://essentials.baltimoresun.com/micro_sun/homicides/index.php?range=2009&district=all&zipcode=all&age=18to25&gender=male&race=black&cause=all&article=all&show_results=Show+Results
Try "Asian" and you get a Zero from 18-through-50 - and only one over-50 shooting...
That is a GREAT map. When you play with the different input modifiers the variance in homicides according to race is astounding!. I thought that the rate for homicides for blacks would drop if I raised the age. Not so much.....
187 murders in all age groups. The next highest is whites with 16, hispanics with 7. Now, figure in the ratios according to population. (I can't do it.) WTF? Why are black males killing each other so much? I knew that the crime rate was bad, but THIS? Btw, black females had 20. Whites, 17. ???????
And the NAACP chastises Cosby when he brings it up.....
My understandingf is that "Hispanic" in Baltimore (Nancy Pelosi's hometown - she's NOT a Califoirnian) predominantly means Puerto Rican, not Mexican as in California or The West...
In Bawlmer nowadays it's far more the case that "Hispanic" would mean Salvadoran, Guatemalan and Honduran.
Puerto Ricans have always been something of an oddity in Bawlmer. most of the PR's who ventured that far south down the mid-Atlantic are upper-caste, and are as likely to grow up in a barrio or public housing as the Rockefellers...street criminals, they ain't.
Thought y'all would find that map educational.
Anyone wanna hang with the Bilgeman when I go kickin' it with my peeps along North Avenue or up Druid Hill Park?
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