Eh, we're all racists anyways. It was a survival feature, now it's a bug.
Some of us, however, have learned to use that extra-meaty layer surrounding that whole reptilian cortex thingie to ignore our genetic racism. We're not racists, not because we don't have racist (or tribal instinct) inklings, we're not racists because we ignore them as we're smarter than that. Because we use our brains to discern which instincts are valid and which are not.
Even Markedelphie-aye-aye-aye (or whatever his name is) has racist thoughts. Not that he has the courage to admit this. Even HE doesn't want expulsion from the tribe. Or cult. I forget which it is sometimes.
Grumpyoldfart is just pointing out the truth: that the left uses racism as weapon. To be precise, the left uses accusations of racism as a weapon. When devoid of facts, or anything worthwhile for that matter, to counter an argument; the cry RACISM is their final canard.
Well spoken. It's that type of thinking that will win the day.
Kresh,
I don't agree with you. We choose not to be prejudiced or tribal merely because there is enough of everything for everyone, even those who do not perform. Change that, and the whole notion of modern man, and that of civilization, goes back to barbarism and tribalism in an instant.
It always surprises me to find people who actually believe we can ever leave or be re-educated out of our own skins. We are what we are. That mask of civilization and effete superiorism felt toward "ancient evil man" is just one disaster away from being peeled off like a dirty rag. I've seen it. I've done it. It's a fools notion.
"Even Markedelphie-aye-aye-aye (or whatever his name is) has racist thoughts. Not that he has the courage to admit this."
Not true. On the contrary, I have mentioned a few times on here and on my own blog that I have a bias towards Muslim men. But I do agree with you, Kresh, we are all racist. I know I am. It's part of being human.
What perplexes me, though, is how none of you can see this. The right is largely populated by white identity groups (such as this one) where any mention of racism is met with howls of derision and counter claims of racism (see: Sotomayor). Have any of you ever stopped and thought (see: reflection) why non-whites don't post here? Perhaps it has something to do with your COMPLETE lack of understanding anything other than your little pocket culture which, honestly, is where the misguided rage comes from...people fear what they do not understand. I have asked a few times if there are any readers who are not white. Not getting a response means perhaps that I am correct although I would be happy to be wrong.
That's not even mentioning the fact that many of these groups are also gender biased as well. I mean, how many women post here? Three? Again, happy to be wrong but it does seem that there is a definite agenda.
For once, you have told the truth. It is plain to see that you are happy to be wrong, indeed you appear to revel in it. You willingly compound being wrong in quite inventive ways as if you derive great pleasure from it.
But you just can't admit to being wrong in any significant way, can you?
You remind me of a little boy, about five years old, who stands on a chair he's pulled up to the kitchen counter, with one hand in a cookie jar and the other pushing a cookie into his mouth. Mommy says, "I told you to stay away from the cookies! "What's in your mouth?" The little boy answers, "It's not a cookie."
Some little boys outgrow this behavior. Some don't.
And yet, you made no attempt to prove me wrong...just more personal insults.
In fact, I'll go one step farther. I challenge all of you to welcome non whites into the fold with your current beliefs. If, as you all insist, no one here is the least bit racist, then it shouldn't be too difficult. Your ideology is the epitome of self reliance. All should fall at the feet and worship your glorious vision of utopia.
Perhaps a small advertising campaign might help...I'd gladly donate:)
Did you add some sort of race and gender test before allowing commenting here? I don't seem to remember being required to answer any questions about my racial or gender qualifications before being permitted to read your posts or comment on them.
Marky, where's this qualifications test whereof you speak?
I have asked a few times if there are any readers who are not white. Not getting a response means perhaps that I am correct although I would be happy to be wrong.
Did the thought that the lack of response might, perhaps, mean that said readers think it's none of your minuscule business ever cross your beady little mind, Sta-Puft?
"What perplexes me, though, is how none of you can see this. The right is largely populated by white identity groups (such as this one) where any mention of racism is met with howls of derision and counter claims of racism"
White identity groups? You have noticed the trend, have you not, of non-whites being accused of "going white" if they try to be successful without claiming that their racial heritage was a factor? Whites didn't invent the term "Oreo", as a means of describing blacks who chose to cast off the proscribed ghettoized tribal identity and become Americans. Blacks did. Mexicans have their own term for it, as do Asians, yet whites have no term for it.
Wait, I forgot "wiggers." Mea Culpa.
Do you, I wonder, deride your side for supporting black-identity, or brown-identity, or class-identity groups? Do you ever wonder, EVER, why your side insists that color or race means anything? Let's be honest here, for a supposed race-neutral group, you fuckers sure do insist that race is important.
Then again, I suppose it's always going to be "Whites=racist" and "Non-White=victim." I wonder if you all will ever understand why MLK Jr. is spinning in his grave so fast. Probably not. *sigh*
"And yet, you made no attempt to prove me wrong ..."
Made no attempt? We have succeeded in proving you wrong time and again on all manner of subjects for two and a half years. Congratulations! You have just validated my assertion that you can't admit it.
Welcome to reality, little boy. Sucks, doesn't it?
"I challenge all of you to welcome non whites into the fold with your current beliefs."
They are welcome and have always been welcome. Nothing keeps them away.
And yet, you made no attempt to prove me wrong...just more personal insults.
Given that your entire comment consisted of nothing more than a gigantic ad hominem grown out of the darker recesses of your mind and based in no facts that you actually would be aware of, the only appropriate response is in kind.
Here is a friendly hint: the whole "wounded martyr" schtick only works if you actually have the high ground. You yielded that territory years ago.
So the entirety of your answer has been to 1) loudly proclaim that you know nothing whatever about me, but are basing your opinion solely on your own assumptions, and 2) make disparaging comments about me based solely on my skin color.
I "took your challenge" and overcame it some 35 years ago, bub. You are way behind the curve on this one.
Suffice it to say that one of my best friends, at whose funeral in 1997 I was the only white pallbearer (at the request of his father), would have some choice words to say to you on this subject.
But I suppose, when all is said and done, you have a point. Fine, I'll change it to reflect that point:
"I'm living a nightmare. A nightmare where I am forbidden to judge a person by the content of his character, because of the color of my skin."
Shh. Mark is projecting. He'd like us all to be white businessmen in our 40's who regularly rant to our repressed wives (between beating them and tell them to stay in the kitchen) about how them darkies need to stay in their place.
It's typical of his views and of his projection. He never restricts his use of the strawman to an argument - no, he makes *us* into the strawmen.
All should fall at the feet and worship your glorious vision of utopia.
What strange land is this you speak of? Obviously YOU believe in utopia, but I don't, nor do most libertarians that I know. Hell, even the anarchists I know don't think THAT would be utopia. Just better than what we have now and where we seem to be headed.
Am I missing something? When I open up comments on Kevin's site, all I get is a white background and black letters. I don't see any pictures at all. Am I missing out on the cool avatars and personal pictures? Does everyone else have their own image up next to all of their comments?
If not, how the hell does Markadelphia know know what color any of the typists behind these comments are?
>>"If not, how the hell does Markadelphia know know what color any of the typists behind these comments are?"
Because the Doctrine Cannot Be Wrong, Only Wrongly Implemented.
In this case, the Doctrine specifies that the opponents of Progressivism are latently and blatantly racist middle aged white males, in search of past glories and seek to fearfully preserve their position of advantage, which were gained, and currently maintained through oppression and exploitation.
We have declared ourselves as his opponents, and therefore, according to Doctrine....
The machine running the Marky script seems to be rebooted weekly now, and sometimes twice a week, flushing the memory cache and any indication of temporal awareness.
Someone simplified the code down to "20 goto 10" format, so now it REQUIRES a reboot every now and again.
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Welcome to AA version 10.
I mentioned this quote to a friend.
His response "that is quite a quote".
Expecting the denunciation of 'racism' from Markadaffya in 3, 2, 1...
Eh, we're all racists anyways. It was a survival feature, now it's a bug.
Some of us, however, have learned to use that extra-meaty layer surrounding that whole reptilian cortex thingie to ignore our genetic racism. We're not racists, not because we don't have racist (or tribal instinct) inklings, we're not racists because we ignore them as we're smarter than that. Because we use our brains to discern which instincts are valid and which are not.
Even Markedelphie-aye-aye-aye (or whatever his name is) has racist thoughts. Not that he has the courage to admit this. Even HE doesn't want expulsion from the tribe. Or cult. I forget which it is sometimes.
Grumpyoldfart is just pointing out the truth: that the left uses racism as weapon. To be precise, the left uses accusations of racism as a weapon. When devoid of facts, or anything worthwhile for that matter, to counter an argument; the cry RACISM is their final canard.
/shrug
/preaching to the choir
Well spoken. It's that type of thinking that will win the day.
Kresh,
I don't agree with you. We choose not to be prejudiced or tribal merely because there is enough of everything for everyone, even those who do not perform. Change that, and the whole notion of modern man, and that of civilization, goes back to barbarism and tribalism in an instant.
It always surprises me to find people who actually believe we can ever leave or be re-educated out of our own skins. We are what we are. That mask of civilization and effete superiorism felt toward "ancient evil man" is just one disaster away from being peeled off like a dirty rag. I've seen it. I've done it. It's a fools notion.
I have said, from time to time, that if I am going to be accused of and punished for being a racist, then I might as well become one.
I've noticed that saying that strikes a chord with a lot of people who are beginning to feel that they are losing the option of being egalitarian.
GOF wins the Internet.
McThag:
"I have said, from time to time, that if I am going to be accused of and punished for being a racist, then I might as well become one."
I have felt that way myself. It's a natural reaction to overuse of the epithet.
"I've noticed that saying that strikes a chord with a lot of people who are beginning to feel that they are losing the option of being egalitarian."
And this is a VERY VERY BAD sign.
If you will notice, I'm stocking the lifeboat with non-perishables and putting my important documents into waterproof ziploc bags.
What's coming at us over the horizon is not going to pretty.
We are provoking the Almighty's wrath.
We are provoking the Almighty's wrath.
Oh, c'mon! Obama's not that powerful.
Yet.
;)
"Even Markedelphie-aye-aye-aye (or whatever his name is) has racist thoughts. Not that he has the courage to admit this."
Not true. On the contrary, I have mentioned a few times on here and on my own blog that I have a bias towards Muslim men. But I do agree with you, Kresh, we are all racist. I know I am. It's part of being human.
What perplexes me, though, is how none of you can see this. The right is largely populated by white identity groups (such as this one) where any mention of racism is met with howls of derision and counter claims of racism (see: Sotomayor). Have any of you ever stopped and thought (see: reflection) why non-whites don't post here? Perhaps it has something to do with your COMPLETE lack of understanding anything other than your little pocket culture which, honestly, is where the misguided rage comes from...people fear what they do not understand. I have asked a few times if there are any readers who are not white. Not getting a response means perhaps that I am correct although I would be happy to be wrong.
That's not even mentioning the fact that many of these groups are also gender biased as well. I mean, how many women post here? Three? Again, happy to be wrong but it does seem that there is a definite agenda.
" ... I would be happy to be wrong."
and
"Again, happy to be wrong ..."
For once, you have told the truth. It is plain to see that you are happy to be wrong, indeed you appear to revel in it. You willingly compound being wrong in quite inventive ways as if you derive great pleasure from it.
But you just can't admit to being wrong in any significant way, can you?
You remind me of a little boy, about five years old, who stands on a chair he's pulled up to the kitchen counter, with one hand in a cookie jar and the other pushing a cookie into his mouth. Mommy says, "I told you to stay away from the cookies! "What's in your mouth?" The little boy answers, "It's not a cookie."
Some little boys outgrow this behavior. Some don't.
And yet, you made no attempt to prove me wrong...just more personal insults.
In fact, I'll go one step farther. I challenge all of you to welcome non whites into the fold with your current beliefs. If, as you all insist, no one here is the least bit racist, then it shouldn't be too difficult. Your ideology is the epitome of self reliance. All should fall at the feet and worship your glorious vision of utopia.
Perhaps a small advertising campaign might help...I'd gladly donate:)
Tinkerballs, you are aware that my wife is Okinawan, right?
Kevin,
Did you add some sort of race and gender test before allowing commenting here? I don't seem to remember being required to answer any questions about my racial or gender qualifications before being permitted to read your posts or comment on them.
Marky, where's this qualifications test whereof you speak?
I have asked a few times if there are any readers who are not white. Not getting a response means perhaps that I am correct although I would be happy to be wrong.
Did the thought that the lack of response might, perhaps, mean that said readers think it's none of your minuscule business ever cross your beady little mind, Sta-Puft?
"What perplexes me, though, is how none of you can see this. The right is largely populated by white identity groups (such as this one) where any mention of racism is met with howls of derision and counter claims of racism"
White identity groups? You have noticed the trend, have you not, of non-whites being accused of "going white" if they try to be successful without claiming that their racial heritage was a factor? Whites didn't invent the term "Oreo", as a means of describing blacks who chose to cast off the proscribed ghettoized tribal identity and become Americans. Blacks did. Mexicans have their own term for it, as do Asians, yet whites have no term for it.
Wait, I forgot "wiggers." Mea Culpa.
Do you, I wonder, deride your side for supporting black-identity, or brown-identity, or class-identity groups? Do you ever wonder, EVER, why your side insists that color or race means anything? Let's be honest here, for a supposed race-neutral group, you fuckers sure do insist that race is important.
Then again, I suppose it's always going to be "Whites=racist" and "Non-White=victim." I wonder if you all will ever understand why MLK Jr. is spinning in his grave so fast. Probably not. *sigh*
No, HaloScan charges extra for the "Grand Kleagle" option, and you have to prove you're a Democrat to boot.
And I guess the fact that Bob Parks of Black & Right put TSM on his blogroll is meaningless, too.
"And yet, you made no attempt to prove me wrong ..."
Made no attempt? We have succeeded in proving you wrong time and again on all manner of subjects for two and a half years. Congratulations! You have just validated my assertion that you can't admit it.
Welcome to reality, little boy. Sucks, doesn't it?
"I challenge all of you to welcome non whites into the fold with your current beliefs."
They are welcome and have always been welcome. Nothing keeps them away.
Challenge met.
Now, how about my challenge to you, little boy? Find that statement yet?
And yet, you made no attempt to prove me wrong...just more personal insults.
Given that your entire comment consisted of nothing more than a gigantic ad hominem grown out of the darker recesses of your mind and based in no facts that you actually would be aware of, the only appropriate response is in kind.
Here is a friendly hint: the whole "wounded martyr" schtick only works if you actually have the high ground. You yielded that territory years ago.
Mornin' Ralph.
So the entirety of your answer has been to 1) loudly proclaim that you know nothing whatever about me, but are basing your opinion solely on your own assumptions, and 2) make disparaging comments about me based solely on my skin color.
I "took your challenge" and overcame it some 35 years ago, bub. You are way behind the curve on this one.
Suffice it to say that one of my best friends, at whose funeral in 1997 I was the only white pallbearer (at the request of his father), would have some choice words to say to you on this subject.
But I suppose, when all is said and done, you have a point. Fine, I'll change it to reflect that point:
"I'm living a nightmare. A nightmare where I am forbidden to judge a person by the content of his character, because of the color of my skin."
Better?
GOF wins the Internet again.
[i]I have mentioned a few times on here and on my own blog that I have a bias towards Muslim men.[/i]
Muslim is still not a race.
"Muslim is still not a race."
Shh. Mark is projecting. He'd like us all to be white businessmen in our 40's who regularly rant to our repressed wives (between beating them and tell them to stay in the kitchen) about how them darkies need to stay in their place.
It's typical of his views and of his projection. He never restricts his use of the strawman to an argument - no, he makes *us* into the strawmen.
All should fall at the feet and worship your glorious vision of utopia.
What strange land is this you speak of? Obviously YOU believe in utopia, but I don't, nor do most libertarians that I know. Hell, even the anarchists I know don't think THAT would be utopia. Just better than what we have now and where we seem to be headed.
Aaaaaand Tinkerballs dashes in, farts, and runs away.
Again.
I, for one, am shocked, shocked that Marky behaved in his standard, predictable manner. Much like a script...
Waitaminute waitaminute waitaminute...
Am I missing something? When I open up comments on Kevin's site, all I get is a white background and black letters. I don't see any pictures at all. Am I missing out on the cool avatars and personal pictures? Does everyone else have their own image up next to all of their comments?
If not, how the hell does Markadelphia know know what color any of the typists behind these comments are?
Error at Ralphadelphia: Invalid Media or Track 0 Bad, Memory Storage Device Corrupt, Logical Device Unusable.
Press Any Key To Continue...
Um, I think it's supposed to be "Hit Any Key To Continue ..."
That's the problem. The clue-by-four isn't big enough, nor is it applied with enough force, nor is it applied often enough ...
Tune in tomorrow for another fantasy.
"If not, how the hell does Markadelphia know know what color any of the typists behind these comments are?"
Y'see, jumping to conclusions is his specialty. He just knows stuff, by golly.
"If not, how the hell does Markadelphia know know what color any of the typists behind these comments are?"
He "asks himself the right questions." (*snort*)
>>"If not, how the hell does Markadelphia know know what color any of the typists behind these comments are?"
Because the Doctrine Cannot Be Wrong, Only Wrongly Implemented.
In this case, the Doctrine specifies that the opponents of Progressivism are latently and blatantly racist middle aged white males, in search of past glories and seek to fearfully preserve their position of advantage, which were gained, and currently maintained through oppression and exploitation.
We have declared ourselves as his opponents, and therefore, according to Doctrine....
He's back. His masochism is apparently boundless.
He doesn't even wait for the subject to drop off the page anymore before pretending it never existed.
The machine running the Marky script seems to be rebooted weekly now, and sometimes twice a week, flushing the memory cache and any indication of temporal awareness.
+++Redo From Start+++
The machine running the Marky script seems to be rebooted weekly now...
Well I gotta admit, that seems fair.
He gets rebooted, comes over here, and gets re-punted.
There's a certain symmetry to that.
Someone simplified the code down to "20 goto 10" format, so now it REQUIRES a reboot every now and again.
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