There's really no such thing as "race" anyhow, that crap is just count-to-two brainstop, interchangeable physical nonsense and hairstyles - it's really ALL about culture. And that INCLUDES both sides of Nature and Nurture which means the interior Ur-dimension of individual personality annealed in the crucible of family growth and development.
The race thing is just fish-bait and distraction, 3-card money on the sidewalk.
Y'know, I actually read the transcripts of Holder's remarks, and what came through the words to me is that the guy is profoundly disappointed that no white person has ever called him a "nigger".
It must really suck to go through life, honing your "racially righteous indignation" response to a razor's edge, and then never getting to use it.
Had some honkie obliged Mr. Holder by laying the "N"-word on him at some point in his life, then he might be able to justify his feelings that he could stand as an equal among the titans of the Civil Rights movement: MLK, WEB DuBois, Jackie Robinson, Rosa Parks, Paul Robeson, and Muhammad Ali.
Instead, all the poor fella gets is to play "second banana" to a mulatto alleged Hawaiian whose own personal heritage does not bear the wound of American chattel slavery, (unless his mother's people were slaveowners, back in the day).
I took his comments to be more of a challenge than a rip against white men. We do need to talk about race and do it in a way that is uncomfortable for pretty much everyone. It's not surprising to me, though, that Mr. Correia reacted the way he did.
Even though we elected a black president, there are a ton of racial issues in this country. Every year at our school, someone wants to ban Huckleberry Finn because the word "nigger" is in it. It seems like it is never adequately dealt with because people, on all sides, are...well, cowards.
"Every year at our school, someone wants to ban Huckleberry Finn because the word "nigger" is in it. It seems like it is never adequately dealt with because people, on all sides, are...well, cowards."
Liberalism thrives on race issues even when the liberal has to invent there being . . . an issue. It's the fuel to keep the liberals perpetual motion machine running.
It has always astounded me that the World Champeens of Race Don't Matter spend whole lifetimes making goddamned sure that Race Does Matter. The very last thing that the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of the world want is for race to not matter, because then they wouldn't matter.
On an evolutionary scale race is pretty meaningless - it's a trivial and superficial effect, not a cause. Certain *Cultures* makes it a "Cause" however, since it's also the same most superficial identifier. Not sense - but just because it's easy to manipulate in the same way a card-sharp huckster on the sidewalk hides the Queen.
They need to in their hot air balloon and go up a little higher.
I see your points, Bilge and they are beyond a doubt highly valid. I agree with you DJ regarding Sharpton and Jackson. They might already be on their way to being out of a job now that we have my guy at 1600...
It would be easy for me to say that race doesn't matter anymore n 2008 by looking at the microcosm that is my state-Minnesota. In all honesty, I don't see much racism here at all. There are exceptions, to be sure, but for the most part everyone pretty much keeps to themselves here and treats each other fairly...although the Huck Finn thing will never go away.
Sadly, I don't think this is the case in other parts of the country. From the big cities on the coasts, Chicago, and all over the south, there is a veritable ton of racism and it needs to be addressed. Now how do we do that when we have such anger and division on the part of people like Sharpton/Jackson as well as the large swath of paranoid white men in this country?
"I agree with you DJ regarding Sharpton and Jackson. They might already be on their way to being out of a job now that we have my guy at 1600..."
No, you don't agree with me, you blithering jackass. You don't understand what I meant.
Sharpton and Jackson are not "on their way to being out of a job" no matter who is in the White House. They FOSTER racism because they BENEFIT from it. They and others like them are why racism continues to make headlines. For them, and for Obama and his minions, having a black in the White House is an opportunity not to be squandered. If race doesn't matter, then Obama's race doesn't matter and the opportunity would be lost.
Racism will go away not because people continue to yammer about it, rather it will be gone when people no longer talk about it, i.e. when race doesn't matter and nobody notices any more that it doesn't matter.
"It would be easy for me to say that race doesn't matter anymore n 2008 by looking at the microcosm that is my state-Minnesota. In all honesty, I don't see much racism here at all."
And a good thing that is, too. No tellin' what kind of hell it would be if the Swedes and the Norwegians started going at it...and don't even get me started on the Germans!
FFS!
"From the big cities on the coasts, Chicago, and all over the south, there is a veritable ton of racism and it needs to be addressed."
Mark, did you know that the state with the highest number of African-American elected government officials is Mississippi?
I'm as honkie a Southerner as they come, and have NEVER received an invitation to a cross-burning or to go a-nightridin'
Worry ONLY about the racism in your OWN 'hood...leave the other barrios to their residents.
"Now how do we do that when we have such anger and division on the part of people like Sharpton/Jackson as well as the large swath of paranoid white men in this country?"
I would have thought that DJ laid that out pretty plainly.
Finding new Windmills of Racism to tilt at, (Tawana Brawley, anyone?), is Sharpton/Jackson and their ilk's "rice bowl".
They eat their bread by stirring up trouble, making mountains out of mole-hills, and sticking their face in a camera and venting their soup-coolers when there really IS trouble.
White men aren't paranoid they're concerned, and rightly so, since we know full well who gets to play "eeeevil racists" in this shopworn and threadbare old production.
Heck, with your "it's all over the South, but not in MY Minnesota" disclaimer, you're fulfilling your walk-on part in this much-beloved old minstrel show.
Mark, did you read Maureen Dowd the other day on Holder's remarks?
She gave the game away, the real agenda behind the "White Guilt" vote:
They don't want to hear that shit anymore.
That's REALLY what the "post-racial" and "Obama moving us beyond race" meme is REALLY about.
Holder apparently didn't RTFM.
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All one can add to that is, Thank you.
There's really no such thing as "race" anyhow, that crap is just count-to-two brainstop, interchangeable physical nonsense and hairstyles - it's really ALL about culture. And that INCLUDES both sides of Nature and Nurture which means the interior Ur-dimension of individual personality annealed in the crucible of family growth and development.
The race thing is just fish-bait and distraction, 3-card money on the sidewalk.
That was a very poetic Quote of the day.
Kevin:
Y'know, I actually read the transcripts of Holder's remarks, and what came through the words to me is that the guy is profoundly disappointed that no white person has ever called him a "nigger".
It must really suck to go through life, honing your "racially righteous indignation" response to a razor's edge, and then never getting to use it.
Had some honkie obliged Mr. Holder by laying the "N"-word on him at some point in his life, then he might be able to justify his feelings that he could stand as an equal among the titans of the Civil Rights movement: MLK, WEB DuBois, Jackie Robinson, Rosa Parks, Paul Robeson, and Muhammad Ali.
Instead, all the poor fella gets is to play "second banana" to a mulatto alleged Hawaiian whose own personal heritage does not bear the wound of American chattel slavery, (unless his mother's people were slaveowners, back in the day).
I took his comments to be more of a challenge than a rip against white men. We do need to talk about race and do it in a way that is uncomfortable for pretty much everyone. It's not surprising to me, though, that Mr. Correia reacted the way he did.
Even though we elected a black president, there are a ton of racial issues in this country. Every year at our school, someone wants to ban Huckleberry Finn because the word "nigger" is in it. It seems like it is never adequately dealt with because people, on all sides, are...well, cowards.
Mark-
I promise you that all those people are closer to your side than to ours.
"We do need to talk about race and do it in a way that is uncomfortable for pretty much everyone."
Exactly what I knew you'd say, schmuck.
It should be obvious to anyone of intelligence why talking about silly "racial issues" does nothing more than foster MORE HATE, YOU IDIOT!
Do me a favor and FOAD!
"Every year at our school, someone wants to ban Huckleberry Finn because the word "nigger" is in it. It seems like it is never adequately dealt with because people, on all sides, are...well, cowards."
Liberalism thrives on race issues even when the liberal has to invent there being . . . an issue. It's the fuel to keep the liberals perpetual motion machine running.
"We do need to talk about race and do it in a way that is uncomfortable for pretty much everyone."-Markadelphia
You must be nuts. The LAST thing we need is more dullards obsessing about their melanin,(or lack thereof).
Have you ever been to any Christian Identity or Aryan sites?
They talk about race 24/7/365...it's stupefyingly BORING and pointless.
What did Lovie Smith reply when they asked him how it felt to be the first African-American coach of a Super Bowl team?
Words to the effect of:
"It'll be a big deal when it's no big deal."
Just because some mouth-breathing dirt merchant has a hangup about his paint job is no onus upon anyone to share his "not-so-private hell".
Bilgeman wins the Internets!
It has always astounded me that the World Champeens of Race Don't Matter spend whole lifetimes making goddamned sure that Race Does Matter. The very last thing that the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of the world want is for race to not matter, because then they wouldn't matter.
On an evolutionary scale race is pretty meaningless - it's a trivial and superficial effect, not a cause. Certain *Cultures* makes it a "Cause" however, since it's also the same most superficial identifier. Not sense - but just because it's easy to manipulate in the same way a card-sharp huckster on the sidewalk hides the Queen.
They need to in their hot air balloon and go up a little higher.
I see your points, Bilge and they are beyond a doubt highly valid. I agree with you DJ regarding Sharpton and Jackson. They might already be on their way to being out of a job now that we have my guy at 1600...
It would be easy for me to say that race doesn't matter anymore n 2008 by looking at the microcosm that is my state-Minnesota. In all honesty, I don't see much racism here at all. There are exceptions, to be sure, but for the most part everyone pretty much keeps to themselves here and treats each other fairly...although the Huck Finn thing will never go away.
Sadly, I don't think this is the case in other parts of the country. From the big cities on the coasts, Chicago, and all over the south, there is a veritable ton of racism and it needs to be addressed. Now how do we do that when we have such anger and division on the part of people like Sharpton/Jackson as well as the large swath of paranoid white men in this country?
"I agree with you DJ regarding Sharpton and Jackson. They might already be on their way to being out of a job now that we have my guy at 1600..."
No, you don't agree with me, you blithering jackass. You don't understand what I meant.
Sharpton and Jackson are not "on their way to being out of a job" no matter who is in the White House. They FOSTER racism because they BENEFIT from it. They and others like them are why racism continues to make headlines. For them, and for Obama and his minions, having a black in the White House is an opportunity not to be squandered. If race doesn't matter, then Obama's race doesn't matter and the opportunity would be lost.
Racism will go away not because people continue to yammer about it, rather it will be gone when people no longer talk about it, i.e. when race doesn't matter and nobody notices any more that it doesn't matter.
Gentlemen!
There will be no fighting in the War Room!
It isn't fighting. I'm just trying to goad him into blathering something other than the Same Old Shit On A Different Day.
MarK;
"It would be easy for me to say that race doesn't matter anymore n 2008 by looking at the microcosm that is my state-Minnesota. In all honesty, I don't see much racism here at all."
And a good thing that is, too. No tellin' what kind of hell it would be if the Swedes and the Norwegians started going at it...and don't even get me started on the Germans!
FFS!
"From the big cities on the coasts, Chicago, and all over the south, there is a veritable ton of racism and it needs to be addressed."
Mark, did you know that the state with the highest number of African-American elected government officials is Mississippi?
http://www.gmcl.org/maps/BlackElectedOfficials.gif
I'm as honkie a Southerner as they come, and have NEVER received an invitation to a cross-burning or to go a-nightridin'
Worry ONLY about the racism in your OWN 'hood...leave the other barrios to their residents.
"Now how do we do that when we have such anger and division on the part of people like Sharpton/Jackson as well as the large swath of paranoid white men in this country?"
I would have thought that DJ laid that out pretty plainly.
Finding new Windmills of Racism to tilt at, (Tawana Brawley, anyone?), is Sharpton/Jackson and their ilk's "rice bowl".
They eat their bread by stirring up trouble, making mountains out of mole-hills, and sticking their face in a camera and venting their soup-coolers when there really IS trouble.
White men aren't paranoid they're concerned, and rightly so, since we know full well who gets to play "eeeevil racists" in this shopworn and threadbare old production.
Heck, with your "it's all over the South, but not in MY Minnesota" disclaimer, you're fulfilling your walk-on part in this much-beloved old minstrel show.
Mark, did you read Maureen Dowd the other day on Holder's remarks?
She gave the game away, the real agenda behind the "White Guilt" vote:
They don't want to hear that shit anymore.
That's REALLY what the "post-racial" and "Obama moving us beyond race" meme is REALLY about.
Holder apparently didn't RTFM.
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