JS-Kit/Echo comments for article at http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2008/11/archived-for-posterity.html (9 comments)

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jsid-1225689081-598645  lysander at Mon, 03 Nov 2008 05:11:21 +0000

The Lew Rockwell crowd you apparently disdain is an ally. It never ceases to amaze me how fractured people with the same philosophical goals can become.


jsid-1225714471-598648  Brerarnold at Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:14:31 +0000

"All of this legislation -- merely tips of an unconstitutional Big Government iceberg -- is so obviously in conflict with the plain words of the Constitution that one wonders how Congress gets away with it.

"Simple. We let them. And now the majority of the public is so ignorant of the basis and the workings of their own government, they don't know any better! They think it's supposed to BE THIS WAY!"

Most people consider themselves subjects rather than citizens. They don't know this. It is an unconscious attitude. Perhaps they haven't grown up enough to know that they, and not Papa, are in charge. Regardless of the cause, that is the fact. And subjects will allow government vast powers, because government is in charge, and will also expect to be taken care of by it, in loco parentis.


jsid-1225719822-598651  perlhaqr at Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:43:42 +0000

How are we supposed to stop them? We can't do it by voting for the ones who promise to stop the bribe money, because the ones who want the bribes will vote against them. And you think Vanderboegh is an idiot, so presumably you actually think the tar and feathers option is right out, too.

Should we have shot a few of them in 1815, just to make the point, so that we wouldn't have to now? Given that we didn't, and we clearly have the mess to clean up that our forefathers didn't, what do we do now?

I'm not attacking you, FWIW. I'm frustrated and yes, scared. I'm seeking ideas.


jsid-1225726054-598655  juris_imprudent at Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:27:34 +0000

The case here was Wickard v. Filburn, and it represented the first really egregious abuse of the Commerce Clause.

Minor quibble - this was more the culmination than the beginning of New Deal litigation. It was incredibly disheartening to see Raich rely on it rather than overturn it. I wonder if the CC will ever have it's equivalent of Brown v. Board of Education.


jsid-1225738818-598670  Britt at Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:00:18 +0000

One of the scariest things is that unlike FDR, Obama will not need to lay the groundwork. The machinery of leviathan is already in place. All if requires is someone willing to unleash it upon the country.

The issue is that Democrats whenever they get behind the wheel of car we ride in on the road to serfdom drive it down the road at high speed. When Republicans get behind the wheel, they pull over and stop the car. They need to be turning around and regaining as much freedom as they can while they have the power to do so. Instead, we see that Republicans in charge is really just a pause, a moment to enjoy whatever liberty is left at that particular point, before inevitably the Democrats come back and strip us of more and more of our basic liberties.

The machinery of leviathan may lie dormant at times, but it is always there. What we need is someone willing to dismantle it and cast the pieces to the four winds.


jsid-1225762787-598687  Kevin Baker at Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:39:47 +0000

When Republicans get behind the wheel, they pull over and stop the car.

Not recently. At best they've slowed down. A little.


jsid-1225766461-598689  juris_imprudent at Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:41:01 +0000

When Republicans get behind the wheel, they pull over and stop the car.

WTF? From Jan 2001 through 2006 we careened down the road hell-bent for leather with a liquored-up teenage boy driving.

Hell, even Reagan didn't actually pull over - he just talked about driving more responsibly.


jsid-1225771377-598692  Joshua at Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:02:57 +0000

The machinery of leviathan may lie dormant at times, but it is always there. What we need is someone willing to dismantle it and cast the pieces to the four winds.

And for that, we first need an electorate with enough courage to embrace the idea of dismantling the leviathan - and willing to risk not having it around if/when we happen to need it again. You might call this the "pack rat theory" of politics, and it may be the biggest stumbling block of all to what Britt suggests.


jsid-1225806554-598700  Oldsmoblogger at Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:49:14 +0000

In the interim, while we're figuring it out, stay as far the heck away from the road as you can manage.


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