I've owned her for 11 years. She spent the last five in my garage. I've put just over 2,000 miles on her since I bought her. She really needs to go to someone who will take care of her and drive her.
Concerning the Spock quote, generations of men prove the truth of that statement daily, with regards to autos, bikes, boats, and sadly, ofttimes women. Many of us need to learn that truth in installments. It is only "not logical" from a strictly materialistic point of view.
I'm a Chevy man, but that car definitely starts my motor. I had to get rid of my toy for the same reasons - it was rarely exercised and I needed the money.
Sweet car. Yes, I want it. But I won't insult you with the tiny little bid I could actually *afford*, and if I got it, I wouldn't ever get to drive it. The bid would suck up all my gas money.
Part of me hopes you get the price such a car justifies, but mostly I hope it goes to someone who will treat it as the classic beauty it is.
I'd love to add another horse to the stable, and a fastback of '67 or '68 has long been a favorite.
I could probably make you an offer, but it may not quite be high enough for serious consideration. Besides, my wife would kill me if I told her I'd purchased another project car. She's already bitching about me putting together her long-planned kit car.
Oh well. I hope you do well with your planned sale, sir.
My very first car was a '69 Mach-I. Oh how I long for that car now. I sold it when we got married and bought a '79 civic with a 1200cc motor. The pain, the pain.
I have a deal with the Mrs. that if we can find another 69 that is not multiple tens of thousands, its mine.
Never really understood how some claim a certain engine is a "truck" engine or not.
I've been building engines of one sort or another since about age 10, and they've all been the same, a hole in a block with pistons that pump and burn a hydrocarbon emulsion of some sort.
They can be tuned to a great degree, usually, for more power or torque, and admittedly, some are better suited to a certain task, but V8 engines have long been quite flexible in this area. Ford has been doing plebian people-mover come performance V8 schtick longer than anyone.
I'd say your new(er) Tundra has about as much "truckiness" in its engine as a Lexus, yet it belts out, what, 400 lbs-ft of torque, and it's probably butter-smooth on delivery, right? 32 valves with dual cams per bank? Not much about that that the usual musclecar guy would associate with a truck, more like a German luxury sedan and serious flogging in the 7K rpm range.
This is a good "20-foot" car. It looks terrific from twenty feet. Up close, you can see the blemishes. It's got a 390 with 125,000 miles on it, running an RV cam (thus the "truck engine" reference) and a Holley 650 four-barrel through a leaky C6 automatic and 3.25 gears in an open differential. I can light up (one) tire pretty much at will, but it's no drag racer. At a guess, in its present condition it's a 16-second car in the high 80's.
Do you remember the Datsun roadsters of the 60's, sold here as the "1600" (SPL-311) and the "2000" (SRL-311)? The 1600 had a tractor engine. It would cruise all day at 70 mph turning 4,500 RPM.
Hmmm...probably have to move the motor mounts a little for a 351 Cleveland, new tranny or rebuild that one, ring and pinion in the neighborhood of 4...probably get 'er in the high 13s/low 14s. Wish I had the time and money.
Actually, you might be surprised, Kevin. An engineer friend of mine has a '74 Nova, 305/TH350 auto with a 3.08 rear that will run high 14s with the timing advanced juuust right.
Also (sorry): As for the "truck motor" part, the Chevy 348/409 W-motor was technically a truck engine (giddy-up 409, knowwhutImean?), and the old GMC inline "Jimmy six" used to hold all kinds of Bonneville records, back in the day. Went about 300cid, if I remember my old Hot Rod magazines.
Oh, suuure, Kevin...solve a problem by throwing iron and money at it. Whaddayou, the government? :-) (I kid, I kid.)
And joking aside, I like big-blocks too, but my dad was a drag racer before I was born (C-D stockers and gassers in the late '50s up through '61), a committed small-block guy, and I reckon it rubbed off on me.
Well, the thing about this 'Stang is that it's an original S-Code big-block. Sticking a small-block motor in it would be sacrilege. There's plenty of 250/289/302 '67's out there to do that to.
If I scraped every bank account dry as a bone, I could offer you $4k for it, and I know it's got to be worth more than that.
Oh well.
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Beautiful car, but rather impractical here in Big Sky Country.
Very nice. Should do well on ebay. OTOH why sell?
I've owned her for 11 years. She spent the last five in my garage. I've put just over 2,000 miles on her since I bought her. She really needs to go to someone who will take care of her and drive her.
And I can use the money.
Anybody want to bid on her?
Oh, I wish. I always wanted a vintage 'Stang, but I'm pretty sure I couldn't afford something like that on the mere pittance I draw. ;-)
Unless Krazy Kevin's Honest Motors and Punditry has a payment plan, I will have to reluctantly pass.
However, Steve McQueen smiles upon you.
How much does that come to in Bimmers, guns, and chickens?
Concerning the Spock quote, generations of men prove the truth of that statement daily, with regards to autos, bikes, boats, and sadly, ofttimes women. Many of us need to learn that truth in installments. It is only "not logical" from a strictly materialistic point of view.
Pretty car Kevin.
I'm a Chevy man, but that car definitely starts my motor. I had to get rid of my toy for the same reasons - it was rarely exercised and I needed the money.
I'd be eyeing it if we didn't have our own project car of indefinite "in progress"...
Sweet car. Yes, I want it. But I won't insult you with the tiny little bid I could actually *afford*, and if I got it, I wouldn't ever get to drive it. The bid would suck up all my gas money.
Part of me hopes you get the price such a car justifies, but mostly I hope it goes to someone who will treat it as the classic beauty it is.
I'd love to add another horse to the stable, and a fastback of '67 or '68 has long been a favorite.
I could probably make you an offer, but it may not quite be high enough for serious consideration. Besides, my wife would kill me if I told her I'd purchased another project car. She's already bitching about me putting together her long-planned kit car.
Oh well. I hope you do well with your planned sale, sir.
Too bad it's not a truck! ;-)
Well, it's got a truck engine!
I hope this is not a 'lowball' bid, but howza'bout a Barrett M82A1 in trade?
Well, you said yourself that the Barrett was about the same cost as a Hyundai.
Sorry! 8) :-:
My very first car was a '69 Mach-I. Oh how I long for that car now. I sold it when we got married and bought a '79 civic with a 1200cc motor. The pain, the pain.
I have a deal with the Mrs. that if we can find another 69 that is not multiple tens of thousands, its mine.
That's funny, think my new truck has a car engine!
Sweet ride, for a Ford. Heh.
"Well, it's got a truck engine!"
Never really understood how some claim a certain engine is a "truck" engine or not.
I've been building engines of one sort or another since about age 10, and they've all been the same, a hole in a block with pistons that pump and burn a hydrocarbon emulsion of some sort.
They can be tuned to a great degree, usually, for more power or torque, and admittedly, some are better suited to a certain task, but V8 engines have long been quite flexible in this area. Ford has been doing plebian people-mover come performance V8 schtick longer than anyone.
I'd say your new(er) Tundra has about as much "truckiness" in its engine as a Lexus, yet it belts out, what, 400 lbs-ft of torque, and it's probably butter-smooth on delivery, right? 32 valves with dual cams per bank? Not much about that that the usual musclecar guy would associate with a truck, more like a German luxury sedan and serious flogging in the 7K rpm range.
Not complainin', just sayin's all.
Holy shit.
I had no idea.
¿Que?
Pretty sweet, Kevin. What do you gyess she would do in the quarter?
This is a good "20-foot" car. It looks terrific from twenty feet. Up close, you can see the blemishes. It's got a 390 with 125,000 miles on it, running an RV cam (thus the "truck engine" reference) and a Holley 650 four-barrel through a leaky C6 automatic and 3.25 gears in an open differential. I can light up (one) tire pretty much at will, but it's no drag racer. At a guess, in its present condition it's a 16-second car in the high 80's.
WANT.
WANT.
Got Ca$h? ;)
"Well, it's got a truck engine!"
Do you remember the Datsun roadsters of the 60's, sold here as the "1600" (SPL-311) and the "2000" (SRL-311)? The 1600 had a tractor engine. It would cruise all day at 70 mph turning 4,500 RPM.
So much for names, huh?
Hmmm...probably have to move the motor mounts a little for a 351 Cleveland, new tranny or rebuild that one, ring and pinion in the neighborhood of 4...probably get 'er in the high 13s/low 14s. Wish I had the time and money.
Actually, you might be surprised, Kevin. An engineer friend of mine has a '74 Nova, 305/TH350 auto with a 3.08 rear that will run high 14s with the timing advanced juuust right.
351 Cleveland? I've got a 428CJ block and crank on a pallet in my garage. Same motor mounts as the 390.
450+ hp and 500+ ft.lbs. of torque without breaking a sweat.
"FE" stands for Freaking Expensive, though.
Also (sorry): As for the "truck motor" part, the Chevy 348/409 W-motor was technically a truck engine (giddy-up 409, knowwhutImean?), and the old GMC inline "Jimmy six" used to hold all kinds of Bonneville records, back in the day. Went about 300cid, if I remember my old Hot Rod magazines.
What can I say? I like the way small-blocks sound when they wind up--Chevy first, but they're all pretty good. :-)
I'm a big-block man, myself. There's no substitute for cubic inches! And "FEar begins with FE!"
Oh, suuure, Kevin...solve a problem by throwing iron and money at it. Whaddayou, the government? :-) (I kid, I kid.)
And joking aside, I like big-blocks too, but my dad was a drag racer before I was born (C-D stockers and gassers in the late '50s up through '61), a committed small-block guy, and I reckon it rubbed off on me.
Well, the thing about this 'Stang is that it's an original S-Code big-block. Sticking a small-block motor in it would be sacrilege. There's plenty of 250/289/302 '67's out there to do that to.
Yeah, you have a point there.
I used to have a beater one of these in the late 80s, I think I paid $300 for it.
Went like a bullet. And tiny, so easy to park!
That's pretty. I love fastback mustangs.
If I scraped every bank account dry as a bone, I could offer you $4k for it, and I know it's got to be worth more than that.
Oh well.
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