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jsid-1209473727-591464  GrumpyOldFart at Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:55:27 +0000

I'm having some quality popcorn munching time lately reading up on the antics of Jeremiah Wright. Apparently his bottom line (along with those who support/apologize for him) is that it's really okay to be ravingly lunatic racist.... if you're black.

To me, it's just the same as a drunk being an asshole. Yes, the fact that he's drunk makes it *understandable* that he's an asshole... but it doesn't justify it or excuse it. Nor does it make you an "anti-alcohol nazi" if you have the opinion that, drunk or not, you have no patience nor sympathy with assholes.

jsid-1209477497-591471  Kevin Baker at Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:58:17 +0000

Apparently his bottom line (along with those who support/apologize for him) is that it's really okay to be ravingly lunatic racist.... if you're black.

No, no silly! Black people can't be racist - they're the oppressed, not the oppressor!

Just ask 'em. (But not if you're a Korean!)

jsid-1209479612-591473  DJ at Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:33:32 +0000

Michelle Malkin quotes Write at the National Press Club:

"I do not in any way disagree with James Cone. Jim is a personal friend of mine."

So, who is James Cone? She points to Kathy Shaidle for an explanation, and quotes a summary:

"The leading theorist of Black Liberation Theology is James Cone. Overtly racist, Cone’s writings posit a black Jesus who leads African-Americans as the “chosen people.” In Cone’s cosmology, whites are “the devil,” and “all white men are responsible for white oppression.” Cone makes this point without ambiguity: “This country was founded for whites and everything that has happened in it has emerged from the white perspective,” Cone has written. “What we need is the destruction of whiteness, which is the source of human misery in the world.”

"If whiteness stands for all that is evil, blackness symbolizes all that is good. “Black theology,” says Cone, “refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.” Small wonder that some critics have condemned black liberation theology as “racist idolatry” and “Afro-Nazism.”

"Furthermore, according to Cone, “black values” are superior to American values. Sure enough, the “About Us” statement on Trinity’s web page includes the following Cone-inspired declaration: “We are an African people, and remain ‘true to our native land,’ the mother continent, the cradle of civilization.”

"It is troubling that Barack Obama’s closest friends and allies subscribe to an explicitly racist doctrine. Even more worrying is that the main exponent of Black Liberation Theology sees Obama as a kindred spirit. In the wake of the controversy surrounding Obama’s pastor and Church, Cone said: “I’ve read both of Barack Obama’s books, and I heard the speech [on race]. I don’t see anything in the books or in the speech that contradicts black liberation theology.”"

No, how is all this relevant, you ask?

This is the theology that Jeremiah Wright explicitly agrees with. In his own words, "I do not in any way disagree with [the author of that theology,] James Cone."

Obama explicitly chose Wright's church to attend and chose Wright as his pastor and spiritual advisor, and has attended Wright's church and listened to his sermons for twenty years.

George Will summarizes this neatly:

"[Wright] is a demagogue with whom Obama has had a voluntary 20-year relationship that implies, if not moral approval, certainly no serious disapproval. Wright also is an ongoing fountain of anti-American and, properly understood, anti-black rubbish. His Monday speech demonstrated that he wants to be a central figure in this presidential campaign. He should be."

So, what does Obama really think? If you think you know, you're deluding yourself. Electing Obama is sort of like taking a big, wet bite of a Habañero. Once you bite, it's too late; you're committed, and you can't un-bite.

jsid-1209480631-591475  Russell at Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:50:31 +0000

My Democrat friends are split between Hillary and Obama.

The Hillary supporters are supporting her because she isn't Obama and the Obama supports are supporting him because he is not Hillary.

In my circle of friends and acquaintances, I haven't found anyone who actually likes either one.

Of course, none of my Republican friends like McCain, either. They are supporting him because he isn't a Democrat.

What a great election year!

BTW, when do we start seeing the headlines declaring the Democrat Party is falling apart, being torn into to pieces, is the end for the Democrats, etc, etc?

jsid-1209482450-591478  Rick C at Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:20:50 +0000

"Just ask 'em. (But not if you're a Korean!)"

Or a Mexican.

jsid-1209581203-591527  DJ at Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:46:43 +0000

Michelle Malkin weighs in again and puts a fine focus on ol' Barry. It can get hot under a magnifying glass, and it oughta.

Obama would have us believe that his paper-thin legislative record and his utter lack of adminstrative experience don' mean nuthin', 'cause his intelligence and such will overcome any such shortcomin's.

Nope. I ain't buyin, it.

Obama has demonstrated, over what is a relatively long time, given that it happened during a presidential campaign, an astounding degree of cluelessness about a man who, as Malkin noted, "married him, baptized him, and prayed with him". The notion that Obama has the intelligence, the subtlety, and the ability to wade through the nuances of foreign affairs that are dominated by religious bigotry, when he cannot detect it over twenty years in his own pastor, just numbs the mind, doesn't it? That he cannot quite grasp what the uproar is about just deepens the manure a bit more, doesn't it?

So, the campaign will grind on for another six months. Any bets on how many of his current supports will wake up and smell the coffee?

jsid-1209588007-591531  DJ at Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:40:07 +0000

Now, isn't this interesting? It's a story in the New York Times of one year ago today titled A Candidate, His Minister and the Search for Faith. Yup, it's about Obama and Wright.

The money quote comprises the last two paragraphs:

"Mr. Wright, who has long prided himself on criticizing the establishment, said he knew that he may not play well in Mr. Obama’s audition for the ultimate establishment job.

“If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Mr. Wright said with a shrug. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.”"

Which means that Obama's statements to the effect that he has only lately learned the truth about Wright are outright lies, and nothing more. Methinks he has thrown himself under the bus along with his gramma.

jsid-1209589381-591532  Russell at Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:03:01 +0000

So, either Obama is completely oblivious to his pastor's teachings for the past 20 years, or he is outright lying.

A fool or a knave. And he's what the Democrats want!

jsid-1209592444-591533  DJ at Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:54:04 +0000

Well, some want him. I find it fascinating that some want Obama and won't vote for Clinton if she wins the nomination, and some want Clinton and won't vote for Obama if he wins the nomination. I 'spect it's giving ulcers to the pollsters.

jsid-1209856125-591642  juris_imprudent at Sat, 03 May 2008 23:08:45 +0000

Of course, none of my Republican friends like McCain, either. They are supporting him because he isn't a Democrat.

You know, he's an awful lot closer to former Sen. "Scoop" Jackson then he is to former Sen. Goldwater, so I'm not so sure the "he isn't a Democrat" is the best reason to vote for him. That he isn't Hillary or Obama may be the only reason to vote for him.

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