I thought I would let all of you know--and hopefully not raise anyone's blood pressure too much--that I just got back from my grandfather's funeral. As a few of you know, my grandfather was in the 115th Combat Engineers during WWII, 40th division. Because he was a vet, my grandmother was entitled to a military ceremony complete with a gun salute, flag presentation, and playing of Taps.
He and my grandmother live in Kirkwood, MO--site of a recent shooting rampage--so the city would not allow the gun salute as we had planned, even though they would have been shooting blanks! We did have the flag ceremony, honor guard, and taps, though and his ashes were buried in the courtyard of their church. My grandparent's friend who was killed in the shooting, Ken Yost, is also buried there. Knowing him the way our family did and how much respect he had for my grandfather's service, he would not have minded a gun salute.
Ah, yes, DU. PGP got banned from there after showing up Iverglas. It's usual tactic is just to make huge posts of red herrings in relation to minor points of topics in order to overawe newbies. Any posts showing it's factual inaccuracies tend to be "reasoned discoursed".
Iverglas has the amazing ability to not answer questions that would have obvious answers. If answering "blue" to the question "what color is the sky?" was hazzardous to Iver's beliefs, you'd get the most long-winded 3-paragragh answer without reference to any color close to blue in the rainbow as a response.
Wow. I had to stop reading that after not too long. If y'all managed to push through the entire thread, you've got more mental fortitude in your bullshit snowplows than I do.
iverglas is a long time DU gun and porn hater. Her favorite phrase is "a right-wing piece of s***". To get an idea of what she really feels about gun owners, I give you a couple of posts she made that soon got deleted:
"Me, I can kick the anti-choice in the teeth 24/7 and make 'em eat truth and facts through a straw without turning a hair, f'r instance, but there's just something about the vile, vile, vile, contemptuous selfish lying misogyny of the porn threads and their denizens that makes me quite unable to put finger to keyboard to contribute much to.
So it's a good thing I'm not really needed! And I can go home and eat chicken salad, and know that at least I am sharing my chesterfield with a man who would no more have woman-hating, woman-degrading, woman-exploiting shit ... or guns ... in the house than I would. I guess he's just not a real man…
It is my opinion that people who consume pornography and/or defend people who consume pornography are not fit to breathe the air that the rest of us breathe."
I frequent a pornographic site that has an attached blog where the people who run the site (a rather small crew, given this particular site's popularity) poll the users on content and just discuss everything from the industry to day-to-day activity.
What I find most interesting is the member feedback to any content that features a woman being treated badly (or like meat) - it's positively negative, and there's a great deal of complaining. The downloads of these scenes are near-zero.
Members seem, on the whole, to be more interested in content featuring women who clearly enjoy what they are doing and have no illusions about it.
So this "iverglass" person bitched and complained about Oleg's filming of
"The ones with the pliers gripping women's nipples, and like that."
so i rushed over to his site and was disappointed that there were VERY few images that could pass for porn, plus only one that i could find with a crescent wrench on a nipple. am i looking in the wrong place? or is this person simply overreacting? well, maybe there's a better way to put it. clearly she IS overreacting, but is that the photo she was referring to? i was pretty disappointed, myself.
I, too, got banned from DU for disagreeing with iverglas. Why should a Canadian like her have such influence over a site that is supposed to be about the American Democratic Party?
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Obviously, "Iverglas" has A) no understanding of the word "grassroots," and B) no understanding of the word "irony."
That would be a start of the words that "Iverglas" lacks understanding of...
(Long-time DU Board 118 lurker.)
I thought I would let all of you know--and hopefully not raise anyone's blood pressure too much--that I just got back from my grandfather's funeral. As a few of you know, my grandfather was in the 115th Combat Engineers during WWII, 40th division. Because he was a vet, my grandmother was entitled to a military ceremony complete with a gun salute, flag presentation, and playing of Taps.
He and my grandmother live in Kirkwood, MO--site of a recent shooting rampage--so the city would not allow the gun salute as we had planned, even though they would have been shooting blanks! We did have the flag ceremony, honor guard, and taps, though and his ashes were buried in the courtyard of their church. My grandparent's friend who was killed in the shooting, Ken Yost, is also buried there. Knowing him the way our family did and how much respect he had for my grandfather's service, he would not have minded a gun salute.
Thanks for the report.
Telling, isn't it, when a 21-gun military salute is stopped because people are afraid of guns, and not the perpetrators who misuse them.
Again, my condolences, both for your grandfather, and Mr. Yost.
Heh.
They boost the term "astroturf" from us, and don't even give credit.
How like them... ;)
Ah, yes, DU. PGP got banned from there after showing up Iverglas. It's usual tactic is just to make huge posts of red herrings in relation to minor points of topics in order to overawe newbies. Any posts showing it's factual inaccuracies tend to be "reasoned discoursed".
Sorry for your loss, Mark.
Iverglas has the amazing ability to not answer questions that would have obvious answers. If answering "blue" to the question "what color is the sky?" was hazzardous to Iver's beliefs, you'd get the most long-winded 3-paragragh answer without reference to any color close to blue in the rainbow as a response.
Wow. I had to stop reading that after not too long. If y'all managed to push through the entire thread, you've got more mental fortitude in your bullshit snowplows than I do.
My condolences Mark.
I'm sorry for your loss, Mark, and for the lack of respect accorded to your Grandfather by the tremulous.
iverglas is a long time DU gun and porn hater. Her favorite phrase is "a right-wing piece of s***". To get an idea of what she really feels about gun owners, I give you a couple of posts she made that soon got deleted:
"Me, I can kick the anti-choice in the teeth 24/7 and make 'em eat truth and facts through a straw without turning a hair, f'r instance, but there's just something about the vile, vile, vile, contemptuous selfish lying misogyny of the porn threads and their denizens that makes me quite unable to put finger to keyboard to contribute much to.
So it's a good thing I'm not really needed! And I can go home and eat chicken salad, and know that at least I am sharing my chesterfield with a man who would no more have woman-hating, woman-degrading, woman-exploiting shit ... or guns ... in the house than I would. I guess he's just not a real man…
It is my opinion that people who consume pornography and/or defend people who consume pornography are not fit to breathe the air that the rest of us breathe."
Boy! Good thing she doesn't own a gun!
I frequent a pornographic site that has an attached blog where the people who run the site (a rather small crew, given this particular site's popularity) poll the users on content and just discuss everything from the industry to day-to-day activity.
What I find most interesting is the member feedback to any content that features a woman being treated badly (or like meat) - it's positively negative, and there's a great deal of complaining. The downloads of these scenes are near-zero.
Members seem, on the whole, to be more interested in content featuring women who clearly enjoy what they are doing and have no illusions about it.
Chauvinist my ass.
Thanks for the kind words everyone :)
So this "iverglass" person bitched and complained about Oleg's filming of
"The ones with the pliers gripping women's nipples, and like that."
so i rushed over to his site and was disappointed that there were VERY few images that could pass for porn, plus only one that i could find with a crescent wrench on a nipple. am i looking in the wrong place? or is this person simply overreacting? well, maybe there's a better way to put it. clearly she IS overreacting, but is that the photo she was referring to? i was pretty disappointed, myself.
I, too, got banned from DU for disagreeing with iverglas. Why should a Canadian like her have such influence over a site that is supposed to be about the American Democratic Party?
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