JS-Kit/Echo comments for article at http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2008/04/bag-day.html (15 comments)

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jsid-1208323263-590898  Noel at Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:21:03 +0000

Read about your new rifle. Bought a Rem 700SS 5R milspec .308 myself recently, first heavy barrel rifle for me. Going to use it for F-Class competition at my club. Try her out at 300 yards next week.

Got the Badger Ordnance 20MOA rail and the Burris Xtreme Tactical rings (low height) like you (very solid rings for a good price; the Badger rings were $150) for my Leupold Mark 4 4.5-14X 40mm LR/T scope. Are you going to lap your rings? It took me two days to finish those Burris rings. Never had done it before. Sore arms!

I'll be interested to hear how you like the Bore Coat.

The medium height Burris rings should give enough clearance for your 50mm scope.

jsid-1208347550-590903  Roland the Headless Thompson G at Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:05:50 +0000

I'm way behind. I just now made my Ammo Day purchase (Hornady LnL AP). So now I'm plotting my evil BAG day purchase-something in .454 Casull. Or maybe something mousy by Kel-Tec or Ruger. I need both.

jsid-1208353982-590908  Kevin Baker at Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:53:02 +0000


Is lapping the rings really worth it? I hadn't planned on it.

jsid-1208354793-590909  Unix-Jedi at Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:06:33 +0000


My understanding it's how it's Supposed To Be Done, but you can get by these days without it.

I've never lapped rings, and I've got some sub-MOA guns. They lack a sub-MOA shooter, but that's another story.

jsid-1208355063-590910  Noel at Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:11:03 +0000


I'm no expert but before this rifle I had never bothered with lapping rings. But those Burris Rings are one inch deep with six Torx-15 screws per ring. Make sure you mark the rings before taking them apart. Borrow someone's lapping kit (I used a friend's Wheeler kit) and see how well the rings align on your base. The concern as I understand it is distortion of the optical image due to bending of the scope tube. My friend (who has the same scope and rifle as you) was able to lap his Badger Ordnance rings in 2-3 hours. Let us know what you decide.

jsid-1208365480-590917  DirtCrashr at Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:04:40 +0000

Looks nice! My only "scope" is the Aimpoint - and an old-old Weaver (?) I found at a grage sale...

jsid-1208376882-590929  DJ at Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:14:42 +0000

I'm waiting for my gubmint check. It's gonna buy me a nice 1911 Kimber.

jsid-1208377505-590935  Unix-Jedi at Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:25:05 +0000

I'm waiting for my gubmint check. It's gonna buy me a nice 1911 Kimber.

If you're referring to your prebate, it's still you buying it.

Or did you decide the life of a [Graeme] Frost was for you?

jsid-1208382106-590951  DJ at Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:41:46 +0000

Yup, it's still me buying it. Even if I wasn't getting some of my taxes back from the gubmint, I'd still be buying it.

There was a bit of tongue-in-cheek involved, ya see. It's sorta nice to think of the gubmint buying me a nice 1911, even though we all know the truth of it.

jsid-1208389517-590961  USCitizen at Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:45:17 +0000

Thanks for the mention!
The Commercial Site loves traffic.

jsid-1208389790-590962  USCitizen at Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:49:50 +0000


I, myself was thinking of a scope purchase.

What are your thoughts
on 4.5 x 14
vs 8.5 x 25

Not for tactical use, but definitely long range (600 - ?,000 yards) on a Barrett.

jsid-1208391393-590963  Kevin Baker at Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:16:33 +0000

If you're going to shoot nothing but long-range, the 8.5-25 makes sense, but you need a good spotting scope to go along with it, because it's hard to find targets even at 8.5X unless they're the size of a barn.

I shot Joe's "Spud gun" at the last Rendezvous, and I had a hard time finding that big steel plate at 900 yards unless I cranked the scope power way down first.

jsid-1208391811-590964  DJ at Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:23:31 +0000

"... I had a hard time finding that big steel plate at 900 yards unless I cranked the scope power way down first."

But, but, don't criminals hijack cars and such with 'em all the time? Golly. Whadda they know that we don't?

jsid-1208392803-590965  DC at Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:40:03 +0000

Just a word, here...the training cadre at Boomershoot will tell you that TOO MUCH magnification can be a bad thing. Why? Because large magnifications raise the apparent "wiggle" from your inevitable biological processes (breathing, pulse), making it MUCH harder to focus on finding the sweet spot between your respiratory pause and trigger break and aligned sights. I found that as long as I could see the targets at Boomershoot, I could hit them; I didn't need to see the whole thing up tight and close. White cardboard boxes aren't really that hard to spot (except for some "hidies" those cruel b--tards would put out there :) ) 6X was fine, and helped to show the wind bending the grass for windage. With enough practice, I'd bet you'd find you'll do most of your shooting at Q targets and the like below 10X....10X and up IMHO is for bullseye targets so you can spot your holes and make adjustments. Nice scope, though!

jsid-1208396076-590971  Kevin Baker at Thu, 17 Apr 2008 01:34:36 +0000

Precision rifle shooters like high-magnification scopes - for a reason. If USCitizen wants to shoot little groups at 1,200+ yards with a .50, then 25X is not contraindicated.

But you're right. 10X is generally adequate for most long-range shooting. I just wanted a little bit more than that, myself.

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