If we could only get a few hundred or thousand whose votes 'don't make much of a difference' (at least by themselves), then we might make a difference!
Yeah, sucks being on the bottom of this one. The Brady's probably found this one too....drat!
It's not the polls that really matter, it's the comments.
Go to any newspaper website that allows commenting. Find the last article about someone that shot an intruder/rapist. Read what the people had to say about it in the comments.
Now how do we get them to vote for a real candidate?
Hey, I got a vote about marriage between one man and one woman. I voted NO on a constitutional amendment defining it as such. The "No's" are losing 55 to 44...ah well, so much for freedom :)
Although, I don't know how I would've voted on that simple of a question. Should guns be allowed on private college campuses? Not my decision nor is it anyone's here. It is THEIR choice. Should guns be allowed on public campuses? In any other state but my own, not my decision. Each state should be allowed to make up their own minds along with each college.
In my state? Before I would vote, I think I would have to spend a lot more time thinking about it. What do the students want? How about the university police? Will it be effective? I guess I would be more inclined to allow it for those who went through all the conceal and carry training that we now have in this state.
A more appropriate question should be: should students currently on SSRIs be allowed to carry guns?
Lost cause Kevin. The Arizona Republic rapidly shifted left about the time those of us up here in Phoenix were overrun by Californians. Not to worry though, those polls don't usually mean jack. If they did, we'd have lost open carry a long time ago.
By the time I clicked in, the poll was all jumbled. Outsourcing concealed carry students to stop gay marriage or something like that.
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hmm... the poll doesn't show up for me.
no, wait. I'm blind. I just needed to scroll down on the main page a lot more.
You may have to reload the page to get the "vote" prompt to show up, too. I did.
Still 33/67 the wrong way.
Yup, still upside down.
I wonder if somebody in the brady bunch linked to it...
Voted.
And it's still 64/36, stacked against us.
Kevin, it's time for you to e-mail this to the Puppy Blender.
Shit, for that matter... spam it out to all the gunbloggers, ASAP.
Jim
Sloop New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Voted. didn't make much of a difference, but I did.
I had the same problems with having to reload. What a wonky site.
Not that my opinion has ever made a difference in stupidity, but I keep trying...
If we could only get a few hundred or thousand whose votes 'don't make much of a difference' (at least by themselves), then we might make a difference!
Yeah, sucks being on the bottom of this one. The Brady's probably found this one too....drat!
OK, I voted. Still upside down, 66/34, w/ 4105 votes cast.
I work nights, so I didn't see it until 4:09am CST They had already changed it.
It's not the polls that really matter, it's the comments.
Go to any newspaper website that allows commenting. Find the last article about someone that shot an intruder/rapist. Read what the people had to say about it in the comments.
Now how do we get them to vote for a real candidate?
DoubleTapper
doubletapper@gmail.com
http://doubletapper.blogspot.com/
Sorry, I do a read through of your blog twice daily, missed this one until this morning and the poll has changed.
Hey, I got a vote about marriage between one man and one woman. I voted NO on a constitutional amendment defining it as such. The "No's" are losing 55 to 44...ah well, so much for freedom :)
Although, I don't know how I would've voted on that simple of a question. Should guns be allowed on private college campuses? Not my decision nor is it anyone's here. It is THEIR choice. Should guns be allowed on public campuses? In any other state but my own, not my decision. Each state should be allowed to make up their own minds along with each college.
In my state? Before I would vote, I think I would have to spend a lot more time thinking about it. What do the students want? How about the university police? Will it be effective? I guess I would be more inclined to allow it for those who went through all the conceal and carry training that we now have in this state.
A more appropriate question should be: should students currently on SSRIs be allowed to carry guns?
Done. I am one of the 16. :)
Kevin:
Voted,(yes), the article was slanted against the legislation, naturally.
The lead reads:
"...to allow people to carry guns..."
while buried in the article is the correct language of :
"... would allow concealed-weapons permit holders to carry a gun..."
Same old shit, ain't it?
Lost cause Kevin. The Arizona Republic rapidly shifted left about the time those of us up here in Phoenix were overrun by Californians. Not to worry though, those polls don't usually mean jack. If they did, we'd have lost open carry a long time ago.
Guess I was to slow, the poll was about changing the Constitution to define marriage as between one man and one woman.
(It was probably slanted too)
I'm just proud to be one of the sixteen.
Armed professors and teachers? Sure.
Perpetually inebriated college students? I'm not sure I can sign on to that one yet.
Oklahoma rises to the occasion a bit differently; go see this story. The headline is:
"Bill would let college students bear arms"
The lead is:
"OKLAHOMA CITY -- A bill that would allow some college students to carry concealed weapons on campus is headed for the House floor.
"House Bill 2513 by Rep. Jason Murphey, R-Guthrie, was approved 14-2 on Monday by the House Judiciary and Public Safety Committee.
"The bill would allow students to carry firearms on campus if they are at least 21 and are licensed to carry a concealed weapon.
"As long as students kept their weapons concealed, they could go into class with them," Murphey said."
As might be expected, there are some objections:
"Rep. Paul Roan, an Oklahoma Highway Patrol trooper for 25 years, voted against the bill, saying such a law could greatly hinder law enforcement.
"'You wouldn't know who the players are," he said.'"
Which means what, precisely?
Now, consider the next line:
"Because weapons now are banned, he said, police can tell if someone comes onto campus 'with a gun for evil purposes.'"
How can they tell? X-ray vision, perhaps? Is that why no one ever comes onto campus and shoots someone else?
Damn, but there are some stupid people on this planet.
It was a poll about outsourcing jobs and it's affect on the economy for me.
By the time I clicked in, the poll was all jumbled. Outsourcing concealed carry students to stop gay marriage or something like that.
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