I also find vegans and vegetarians are a little bit loony (especially if they're evangelical vegans), so yeah, I wouldn't want to have a relationship with one either. Plus, I can't have a relationship with a vegan because in my dreams I hear the screams of millions of carrots that are mercilessly ripped from the tender loving soil of Mother Gaia those go to feed the voracious appatite of the cruel, carrot-munching monster laying next to me.
I have a roommate who is vegan. He's definitely militant about (and is an admitted socialist to boot). He makes comments from time to time about eating tortured animals- but I usually respond back with "That's what makes them so tasty!" That shuts him up real quick.
I'm sorry, but veganism is retarded. Humans are designed to eat meat, end of story. Its part of life- life eats other life to survive. At least we are generally humane about it- the animals are dead when we eat them. I mean, have the watched the Discovery Channel- lions eat their prey alive half the time.
Veganism is really about those people feeling different and "better" and more "moral" than the rest of us. That's it. But, they are wrong.
Per your question, she has probably already taken that into account. You probably remember that a vegan couple a few years ago that was charged with neglect because they were trying to raise their two babies as vegans with result that the babies were extremely malnourished. The mother was so strict about her veganism that she had refused to breast feed her own children.
Veganism deprives the brain of essential nutrients that can only be derived from animal products, which is at least one reason why these people are so nutty.
Jesus this give all us good vegitarians a bad name. The Washington Post is saying that if we follow the vegansexualist logic (you are what you eat) then those who don't eat meat are "bloodless, heartless and unappealing to children." Thanks!
Swallowing would involve ingesting "animal" (human) products... does this count as "exploitation", like using milk or honey? Does it matter if the partner is OK with it? I've wondered about this myself.
Glenn, not much, but I'll bet these Vegans also want their carrots to be "organic" - which means they're fertilized only with poop, most of which is a plentiful byproduct of meat and milk cows...
Fortunately, half the militant-vegan body of insult requires the recipient to have some discomfort with dead animals.
I figure anyone's diet is their own damn business, so I've only got issue with those who a)try to make someone else's diet their business, or b)spread disinformation. I know realistic vegans who know damn well it's not the healthiest diet around, and I have no issues with them. The bad ones... they're fun. I enjoy them the same way my dogs and cat enjoy crippled birds.
The ones that really send me into spasms of what-the-fuck are the raw foodists. There are some that seriously believe that you can't absorb as nutrition anything that's been cooked. My riposte- that obviously they're overeating, because I've survived for the last couple of decades on about six pounds total of raw fruits and vegetables- never seems to get a response.
I'm also getting thoroughly fed up with the new supplementary snake-oil trade in "enzymes". Enzymes get treated exactly the same sort of way as any other protein when they go down your throat- they are disassembled and digested. WHY ON EARTH people think that substances they acknowledge are so sensitive to temperature and pH that they are destroyed by cooking can possibly survive the intense hot acid bath that is the stomach is totally beyond me. Head. Explode.
It seems to me that this is an example of militant, self-absorbed nihilism that in the end dissipates itself into nothingness by failure to pass-along any meaningful or valuable survival traits.
Something nagged me about this and I finally hit on what it was. It's simply, really: Does she swallow her own saliva? After all, it comes from an animal ...
I have a much more simple point of view. Happiness is a big gut pile.
Well, I just heard some vegans say that feeding your children your own breast milk and French kissing is consistent with veganism. Their beef (no pun intended) is with animal rights, but since humans can willingly give away their own bodily fluids, there isn't a problem. Which kind of begs the question, if cows don't try to run away when you're milking them, what's the problem.
All this talk about sharing precious bodily fluids has got me thinking...isn't the act of love itself similar to "getting a piece....of meat!"
Or as my friend Pete always says "Taking off a slice."
I think all handling of meats, rumps etc...is woefully inconsistent with veganism...I mean, after all, these two DID have themselves photographed naked. Right?
I spent much of my youth fetching the cows to be milked. They not only don't try to run away, they know the drill well and actively seek to be milked. They were milked every twelve hours and it was just a routine part of their day. All I had to do was walk into the field where they were and let a few see me, at which point they would all immediately head for the barn. I could crawl in a hole at that point and they would still come on in. They entered a large corral and waited patiently at the gate for their turn. They were let out of the corral four at a time and it was risky to get between them and the milk stalls.
In fairness to the loony opposition, dairy cows are bred for copious milk production and they produce much more than their calves need, so saying they "need to be milked" is a mite artificial, even though it's true. But they spend their years in a peaceful existence, as all they do is eat, drink, and be milked.
I've been around thousands of milk cows and I've never known even one that appeared to mind being milked.
Well, there ya go, DJ. Dairy products are cruelty-free. There might be an argument for vegetarianism, but not veganism. Though I have never known any vegetarians who took the pains to eat a balanced diet. Most of them just eat pasta and french fries.
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I would definitly not hit that..ugh.
I'll second that.... WOOF!!
Yes, she needs some meat on her bones.
I also find vegans and vegetarians are a little bit loony (especially if they're evangelical vegans), so yeah, I wouldn't want to have a relationship with one either. Plus, I can't have a relationship with a vegan because in my dreams I hear the screams of millions of carrots that are mercilessly ripped from the tender loving soil of Mother Gaia those go to feed the voracious appatite of the cruel, carrot-munching monster laying next to me.
I have a roommate who is vegan. He's definitely militant about (and is an admitted socialist to boot). He makes comments from time to time about eating tortured animals- but I usually respond back with "That's what makes them so tasty!" That shuts him up real quick.
I'm sorry, but veganism is retarded. Humans are designed to eat meat, end of story. Its part of life- life eats other life to survive. At least we are generally humane about it- the animals are dead when we eat them. I mean, have the watched the Discovery Channel- lions eat their prey alive half the time.
Veganism is really about those people feeling different and "better" and more "moral" than the rest of us. That's it. But, they are wrong.
Kevin
Per your question, she has probably already taken that into account. You probably remember that a vegan couple a few years ago that was charged with neglect because they were trying to raise their two babies as vegans with result that the babies were extremely malnourished. The mother was so strict about her veganism that she had refused to breast feed her own children.
Veganism deprives the brain of essential nutrients that can only be derived from animal products, which is at least one reason why these people are so nutty.
Jesus this give all us good vegitarians a bad name. The Washington Post is saying that if we follow the vegansexualist logic (you are what you eat) then those who don't eat meat are "bloodless, heartless and unappealing to children." Thanks!
Swallowing would involve ingesting "animal" (human) products... does this count as "exploitation", like using milk or honey? Does it matter if the partner is OK with it? I've wondered about this myself.
Given her photo, I doubt she spends a lot of time rebuffing sexual advances from anybody, carnivorous or otherwise.
Judging by the dude over her left shoulder, she doesn't have a problem in that department, regardless of her appearance.
C'mon, folks, even ugly people get laid. I ought to know.
Well, hey! Guess what....I don't want to have sexual intimacy with a vegan either, so there!
That'll fix 'em.
TMI!! :P
Don't plants in essence take up the remains of dead animals that have passed into the soil.
Animal manure too, Glenn.
Think about it.
Glenn, not much, but I'll bet these Vegans also want their carrots to be "organic" - which means they're fertilized only with poop, most of which is a plentiful byproduct of meat and milk cows...
Fortunately, half the militant-vegan body of insult requires the recipient to have some discomfort with dead animals.
I figure anyone's diet is their own damn business, so I've only got issue with those who a)try to make someone else's diet their business, or b)spread disinformation. I know realistic vegans who know damn well it's not the healthiest diet around, and I have no issues with them. The bad ones... they're fun. I enjoy them the same way my dogs and cat enjoy crippled birds.
The ones that really send me into spasms of what-the-fuck are the raw foodists. There are some that seriously believe that you can't absorb as nutrition anything that's been cooked. My riposte- that obviously they're overeating, because I've survived for the last couple of decades on about six pounds total of raw fruits and vegetables- never seems to get a response.
I'm also getting thoroughly fed up with the new supplementary snake-oil trade in "enzymes". Enzymes get treated exactly the same sort of way as any other protein when they go down your throat- they are disassembled and digested. WHY ON EARTH people think that substances they acknowledge are so sensitive to temperature and pH that they are destroyed by cooking can possibly survive the intense hot acid bath that is the stomach is totally beyond me. Head. Explode.
It seems to me that this is an example of militant, self-absorbed nihilism that in the end dissipates itself into nothingness by failure to pass-along any meaningful or valuable survival traits.
Something nagged me about this and I finally hit on what it was. It's simply, really: Does she swallow her own saliva? After all, it comes from an animal ...
I have a much more simple point of view. Happiness is a big gut pile.
Vegans are just plain weird. I mean...look at these people...dorks.
How can you not like steak or cheeseburgers? Good Lord....
There's room for all of God's creatures...
...on the plate next to the mashed potatoes!
Well, I just heard some vegans say that feeding your children your own breast milk and French kissing is consistent with veganism. Their beef (no pun intended) is with animal rights, but since humans can willingly give away their own bodily fluids, there isn't a problem. Which kind of begs the question, if cows don't try to run away when you're milking them, what's the problem.
All this talk about sharing precious bodily fluids has got me thinking...isn't the act of love itself similar to "getting a piece....of meat!"
Or as my friend Pete always says "Taking off a slice."
I think all handling of meats, rumps etc...is woefully inconsistent with veganism...I mean, after all, these two DID have themselves photographed naked. Right?
Sarah, I was raised up on a dairy farm.
I spent much of my youth fetching the cows to be milked. They not only don't try to run away, they know the drill well and actively seek to be milked. They were milked every twelve hours and it was just a routine part of their day. All I had to do was walk into the field where they were and let a few see me, at which point they would all immediately head for the barn. I could crawl in a hole at that point and they would still come on in. They entered a large corral and waited patiently at the gate for their turn. They were let out of the corral four at a time and it was risky to get between them and the milk stalls.
In fairness to the loony opposition, dairy cows are bred for copious milk production and they produce much more than their calves need, so saying they "need to be milked" is a mite artificial, even though it's true. But they spend their years in a peaceful existence, as all they do is eat, drink, and be milked.
I've been around thousands of milk cows and I've never known even one that appeared to mind being milked.
At least not as long as you warmed up the cups on the milking machine...
Well, yeah, ...
Well, there ya go, DJ. Dairy products are cruelty-free. There might be an argument for vegetarianism, but not veganism. Though I have never known any vegetarians who took the pains to eat a balanced diet. Most of them just eat pasta and french fries.
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