I know for certain, in NC, confiscated weapons are offered to agencys and officers. If not taken they are destroyed. I would guess the weapons will be taken by an officer for "official" use, later to fall through the beaurocratic cracks into someone's pocket. Kennel spawn of uncertain lineage.
TOMOQ
Actually, I'm surprised that the CAR wasn't kept in custody as a clear and present danger to the environment, while the OWNER wasn't auctioned off to whatever out-of-state for-profit prison needed the revenue.
No one in their right mind wants to oppose the government. But garbage like this is making such opposition seem more and more necessary and inevitable.
Or to quote someone with better writing skills than I:
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
If you are from the government and you are reading this, PLEASE do not take us to the point where the citizens of this country are forced to repeat the history surrounding the Declaration of Independence. "Those who ignore the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them." I already know the lessons of history, and I sure as hell do not want to repeat them!
That's how our wonderful government gets to take everything away.
You see, although Mr. Spence was arrested and charged, somehow the taking of his car morphed into a "civil" proceeding. Defendants have far fewer rights in civil proceedings.
I'm from the government, a criminal prosecutor by profession. I can't believe the car case got to trial, because no prosecutor would have proceeded in the face of that title.
As far as the car sale, that's just a foulup- the car was not seized for use in a crime, it should have been held for its owner to reclaim.
Maybe this car was stolen once from its previous owner, and was not removed from the list of stolen cars when he got it back? MANY "stolen" cars are recovered by their owners with no police involvement, like when the cousin who took it brings it back. Perhaps the balto police thought it had been stolen. At FIRST. But once they found out the truth...
I suppose we can take some comfoprt in the rarity of these incidents, but even one is too many. A shame that the gun dealer's case doesn't advance the MSM agenda, or he'd get some publicity.
And car man's lawyer is making a mistake by trying to make this character a racial martyr. He'll have some crackers on the jury, and they will discount the damages for that stuff. The case is outrageous no matter what color he is.
""I was listening to the radio from the back seat of the police car. It said a gray Cadillac sedan was stolen; mine is a red coupe. I guess the officer must have been color blind," he said."
Without knowing the full story it's hard to comment, but the officer seemed anything but colour blind.
They are getting worse and worse. The ATF just closed our best surplus dealer in the area due to "paperwork" problems. No oversight at all, just a cease and desist order.
My first blog post was on a story about the Eight Circuit Court of Appeals. They found that "Possession of a large sum of cash is 'strong evidence' of a connection to drug activity". This finding permitted the police to steal $124.000 from a man who was never charged with any crime.
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Where's the NRA on this one? Damnit! If they don't get their butts out the door on this one, I might quit!
I know for certain, in NC, confiscated weapons are offered to agencys and officers. If not taken they are destroyed. I would guess the weapons will be taken by an officer for "official" use, later to fall through the beaurocratic cracks into someone's pocket. Kennel spawn of uncertain lineage.
TOMOQ
Bawlmer PD...
Actually, I'm surprised that the CAR wasn't kept in custody as a clear and present danger to the environment, while the OWNER wasn't auctioned off to whatever out-of-state for-profit prison needed the revenue.
Regards;
No one in their right mind wants to oppose the government. But garbage like this is making such opposition seem more and more necessary and inevitable.
Or to quote someone with better writing skills than I:
If you are from the government and you are reading this, PLEASE do not take us to the point where the citizens of this country are forced to repeat the history surrounding the Declaration of Independence. "Those who ignore the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them." I already know the lessons of history, and I sure as hell do not want to repeat them!
That's how our wonderful government gets to take everything away.
You see, although Mr. Spence was arrested and charged, somehow the taking of his car morphed into a "civil" proceeding. Defendants have far fewer rights in civil proceedings.
If they've never been charged with something, how are they being 'publicly identified' as offenders?
If that piece of crap goes through, someone is going to own a large part of the assets of the state of Ohio.
I'm from the government, a criminal prosecutor by profession. I can't believe the car case got to trial, because no prosecutor would have proceeded in the face of that title.
As far as the car sale, that's just a foulup- the car was not seized for use in a crime, it should have been held for its owner to reclaim.
Maybe this car was stolen once from its previous owner, and was not removed from the list of stolen cars when he got it back? MANY "stolen" cars are recovered by their owners with no police involvement, like when the cousin who took it brings it back. Perhaps the balto police thought it had been stolen. At FIRST. But once they found out the truth...
I suppose we can take some comfoprt in the rarity of these incidents, but even one is too many. A shame that the gun dealer's case doesn't advance the MSM agenda, or he'd get some publicity.
And car man's lawyer is making a mistake by trying to make this character a racial martyr. He'll have some crackers on the jury, and they will discount the damages for that stuff. The case is outrageous no matter what color he is.
""I was listening to the radio from the back seat of the police car. It said a gray Cadillac sedan was stolen; mine is a red coupe. I guess the officer must have been color blind," he said."
Without knowing the full story it's hard to comment, but the officer seemed anything but colour blind.
They are getting worse and worse. The ATF just closed our best surplus dealer in the area due to "paperwork" problems. No oversight at all, just a cease and desist order.
My first blog post was on a story about the Eight Circuit Court of Appeals. They found that "Possession of a large sum of cash is 'strong evidence' of a connection to drug activity". This finding permitted the police to steal $124.000 from a man who was never charged with any crime.
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