But did you catch the part about it taking 3 (three!!!) separate convictions to get a three year minimum sentence for burglary but buying stolen property can get you a FOURTEEN year sentence.
Makes me glad grandpa brought grandma home to the u.S. from that place. Her relatives and their desendants who had to stay in England have my sympathy.
Come on, you just have to think about how to game the system. Problems with burglary? Fine, commit a small robbery, or beat up some old granny. Then, you're a protected class. If someone breaks into your house, you can now get the police after them for interfering with the lives of criminals.
You just wait--someone will try something like this for real.
How many of Sir Robert's principles have been violated so far? Most have been systematically violated in both the UK and the USA, but it sounds like in the UK, one of them is being overfulfilled: "Police use physical force to the extent necessary". It sounds like Tony Martin's mistake wasn't shooting the burglars in the back, it was coming along peacefully afterwards instead of telling the coppers to sod off.
Of course, at least for federal cops over here, that principle has been replaced by, "Use all the force you think you might be able to justify in court later, whether or not there's any need for it."
OTOH, #9 is still mostly respected over here in the USA. Bystander at http://thelawwestofealingbroadway.blogspot.com/ has many posts about what's happening to that principle in the UK
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Check out Theodore Dalrymple's book: "Life at the Bottom : The Worldview that Makes the Underclass"
Just finished it today and it makes this post look very tame. Dalrymple is a Physician who works with the "poor" and has some horrific stories to tell about Britan's educational, social service and police services...
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I think a 15 month life sentence is fine.
Since the convict has served his life sentence, his family can then bury his corpse.
If there is no family, a potter's field will do.
But did you catch the part about it taking 3 (three!!!) separate convictions to get a three year minimum sentence for burglary but buying stolen property can get you a FOURTEEN year sentence.
Makes me glad grandpa brought grandma home to the u.S. from that place. Her relatives and their desendants who had to stay in England have my sympathy.
Kevin:
Once you've built a philosophy, you can't let anything as banal as reality interfere!
Nah. Gotta have somthin' concrete.
Come on, you just have to think about how to game the system. Problems with burglary? Fine, commit a small robbery, or beat up some old granny. Then, you're a protected class. If someone breaks into your house, you can now get the police after them for interfering with the lives of criminals.
You just wait--someone will try something like this for real.
How many of Sir Robert's principles have been violated so far? Most have been systematically violated in both the UK and the USA, but it sounds like in the UK, one of them is being overfulfilled: "Police use physical force to the extent necessary". It sounds like Tony Martin's mistake wasn't shooting the burglars in the back, it was coming along peacefully afterwards instead of telling the coppers to sod off.
Of course, at least for federal cops over here, that principle has been replaced by, "Use all the force you think you might be able to justify in court later, whether or not there's any need for it."
OTOH, #9 is still mostly respected over here in the USA. Bystander at http://thelawwestofealingbroadway.blogspot.com/ has many posts about what's happening to that principle in the UK
>Here's a quiz: How many of Sir Robert's >principles have been violated so far?
To quote a young John Connor (T2)
"Uh, All of 'em, I think"
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Title: Life in England
Excerpt: Just finished reading Theodore Dalrymple's book: “Life at the Bottom : The Worldview that Makes the Underclass” Theodore Dalrymple is the pen name for Dr. Anthony A.M. Daniels who until recently was a Physician working in Birmingham at ...
Blog name: Synthstuff - music, photography and more...
Check out Theodore Dalrymple's book: "Life at the Bottom : The Worldview that Makes the Underclass"
Just finished it today and it makes this post look very tame. Dalrymple is a Physician who works with the "poor" and has some horrific stories to tell about Britan's educational, social service and police services...
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