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Title: Katrina Anthology
Excerpt: Reason for the 2nd Amendment. New Orleans residents exercise their rights and protect their property.
Blog name: Kevin's Korner
Damn straight. I'm sitting here with what's likely to be Hurricane Rita having a chunck o' Texas in her sights, and the last thing I need to worry about is (#(@! like Alex and his friends who'd want to disarm me.
Kevin, your debates with Alex were great, and I give a tip o' the hat to him for engaging you in them.
But, not only did he lose the debates in abstractia, he has clearly lost them in practice, as so unarguably illustrated by your examples.
Game, set and match, Alex. At least, have the the class to lose gracefully?
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Title: The Battle of Athens, Tennessee
Excerpt: How come I never learned about this in high school (I'll give you one guess):
Blog name: MuD & PHuD
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Title: Militias: Not as archaic as some would have us believe
Excerpt: Kevin shows why citizen militias can still be effective and needed today: Militias.
Then read this: The Battle of Athens, Tennessee.
And think about it.
And we're seeing the problems of a centeralized system, i.e. the government local, state and federal, unable to adapt and do what it should do as well as a decentralized system, i.e. the people coming together in common defense.
From reading the founding declarations of many of the early states, many of the contributors to the constitution and specifically the bill of rights, I surmise there intent was that the individual people should have a right to keep and bear arms for the following purposes: Defense of self, their family, property, community, nation, and their laws (e.g. their constitution).
Indeed it was King George's disrespect the colonial laws and government that laid the logical and legal foundation for the American declaration of independance, and the right to use arms to restore and maintain their laws.
There was also some measure of argument that people should be offered some basic training so as to be able to operate effectively with the Army if needed, but there was never a doubt that the supreme force of the land should be anything but the people, such that military coup would be unthinkable. We have rather departed from those founding ideals today, Mr. Alex is a prime example.
The KKK riders were not a "militia" because they used force unlawfully to injure the rights (and bodies) of others. They were criminal raiders. Their victims sought lawfully to use arms for the purposes I mentioned, their action is more properly considered in line with rights of the militia.
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Title: Katrina Anthology
Excerpt: Reason for the 2nd Amendment. New Orleans residents exercise their rights and protect their property.
Blog name: Kevin's Korner
Damn straight. I'm sitting here with what's likely to be Hurricane Rita having a chunck o' Texas in her sights, and the last thing I need to worry about is (#(@! like Alex and his friends who'd want to disarm me.
Kevin, your debates with Alex were great, and I give a tip o' the hat to him for engaging you in them.
But, not only did he lose the debates in abstractia, he has clearly lost them in practice, as so unarguably illustrated by your examples.
Game, set and match, Alex. At least, have the the class to lose gracefully?
See you at the range.
Jim
Sloop New Dawn
Galveston, TX
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Title: The Battle of Athens, Tennessee
Excerpt: How come I never learned about this in high school (I'll give you one guess):
Blog name: MuD & PHuD
Well, he doesn't think so.
And who knows? The debate may resume.
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Title: Militias: Not as archaic as some would have us believe
Excerpt: Kevin shows why citizen militias can still be effective and needed today: Militias.
Then read this: The Battle of Athens, Tennessee.
And think about it.
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Blog name: Solarvoid
And we're seeing the problems of a centeralized system, i.e. the government local, state and federal, unable to adapt and do what it should do as well as a decentralized system, i.e. the people coming together in common defense.
I don't give a rat's ass about Alex feeling safer.
Like most of these fools, he's confusing the "general" with the "particular."
And if he's ever in a situation where he NEEDS to feel safer, he's going to rush over to MY house for protection.
And get sent away, quite rudely.
From reading the founding declarations of many of the early states, many of the contributors to the constitution and specifically the bill of rights, I surmise there intent was that the individual people should have a right to keep and bear arms for the following purposes: Defense of self, their family, property, community, nation, and their laws (e.g. their constitution).
Indeed it was King George's disrespect the colonial laws and government that laid the logical and legal foundation for the American declaration of independance, and the right to use arms to restore and maintain their laws.
There was also some measure of argument that people should be offered some basic training so as to be able to operate effectively with the Army if needed, but there was never a doubt that the supreme force of the land should be anything but the people, such that military coup would be unthinkable. We have rather departed from those founding ideals today, Mr. Alex is a prime example.
The KKK riders were not a "militia" because they used force unlawfully to injure the rights (and bodies) of others. They were criminal raiders. Their victims sought lawfully to use arms for the purposes I mentioned, their action is more properly considered in line with rights of the militia.
Note: All avatars and any images or other media embedded in comments were hosted on the JS-Kit website and have been lost; references to haloscan comments have been partially automatically remapped, but accuracy is not guaranteed and corrections are solicited.
If you notice any problems with this page or wish to have your home page link updated, please contact John Hardin <jhardin@impsec.org>