JS-Kit/Echo comments for article at http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2008/11/when-you-cant-have-gun.html (14 comments)

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jsid-1227069939-599300  Wolfwood at Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:45:39 +0000

"Dave Abrams, appointed as head of Denver's security following the murder of Williams, worries their families may soon be prayed upon."

Step 1: Avoid the Pentecostals.

jsid-1227077721-599303  Rivrdog at Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:55:21 +0000

Didn't both of those shootings have something to do with people that the victims partied with?

It seems to me that whenever I read an account of a celebrity getting shot at or shot, there's something in there about partying with the wrong crowd.

Sure, they should be allowed to carry concealed, but unlike the rest of us schmo's, they have huge bargaining power, so why don't they use it?

jsid-1227102284-599307  perlhaqr at Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:44:44 +0000

It's true, I suspect the NFL would back down real quick if they threatened to go on strike if they didn't change their stupid victim disarmament rules.

Of course, it's not the NFL the Redskins have to worry about.

jsid-1227102971-599308  6Kings at Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:56:11 +0000

Who cares what the NFL policy is? Carry in your car and then challenge Goodall IF you get called on it. There isn't a need to bring it into the facilities per se. Unless they search cars, there is no way to ever get called on it unless you are brandishing it.

Same for Walmart or any other corporate policy idiocy. Unless they are going to escort you home, they can jump in a lake.

jsid-1227104675-599310  GrumpyOldFart at Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:24:35 +0000

Could be worse. If they had donated to fund GOTV efforts for CA's Prop 8, they'd be targeted every moment of every day. Ask any Mormon.

jsid-1227107817-599316  Mark Alger at Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:16:57 +0000

I'm not sure why an employer which denies employees exercise of 2A rights isn't liable for charges of conspiracy against civil rights.

I mean, it is illegal, and the SCOTUS has affirmed that KBA is a constitutional civil right. What's missing from this picture?


jsid-1227117341-599328  mariner at Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:55:41 +0000

I agree with perlhaqr.

If the players were smart they would get together and announce that they would no longer come to work unarmed.

Team owners and NFL management, given the choice between having their money or their precious anti-gun policy would quickly see the light.

jsid-1227120029-599332  DirtCrashr at Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:40:29 +0000

Since I don't follow Football or TV "Sports," all this killing and robbery-stuff is quite a surprise!

jsid-1227125182-599336  Sarah at Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:06:22 +0000

No kidding, Dirt. Is this something exclusive to the NFL? I follow hockey, but I've never heard of this happening to anyone in the NHL.

jsid-1227125575-599337  Oldsmoblogger at Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:12:55 +0000

If the players were smart they would get together and announce that they would no longer come to work unarmed.

That would be a neat trick in New York, Oakland, San Francisco, Foxboro, Baltimore, or Chicago (just for starters). And if they get to go to work armed, I had damned well better be able to do likewise. No more Only Ones, thanks.


jsid-1227197515-599360  GrumpyOldFart at Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:11:55 +0000

I once spent several hours in the close company of Brett Hull. Nice guy. Fun to be around.
But ya know, I can't help feeling like any poor sap who decides to offer that man violence in any fashion is a damn fool who deserves whatever he gets. If you threaten him with a gun, you'd be well advised to do it from a long way off.
Somehow I'm not surprised at all that no one is targeting hockey players.

jsid-1227200697-599361  Sarah at Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:04:57 +0000


Good point. A lot of big, strong guys aren't actually all that tough when it comes to fighting. I saw that first-hand when I was a competitive powerlifter. But hockey players are something else entirely. I'd like to see a thug try something with Jarkko Ruutu. The guy is nuts, and loves to fight.

jsid-1227207921-599369  DirtCrashr at Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:05:21 +0000

I have a CEO-friend who played semi-pro hockey (he knew the brother-guys in that Slap-Shot movie) and we were talking the other night while he's out here on business. Big-guy's conversation got around to competitive anger stuff, and he said he was "broken" - that pain and getting hit didn't bother him much, he learned he could take it. Punches here and there, no big deal - because he was focused and KNEW that HE'd get his shot in - and that'd be it. Just ONE shot but it would be THE shot that totally took the other guy out, completely, out of the game, maybe for months, maybe forever. He said that he'd knocked so many teeth out of other people's heads he couldn't count anymore, but he remembered each one - one guy his whole set of teeth.
Hockey players scare me a bit. He has a CCW in his back-east state.

jsid-1227240043-599374  Sarah at Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:00:43 +0000


My husband is a hockey player. When he lived in Finland, he was the junior trainer for Saku Koivu and played against Teemu Selanne. These guys have a whole relationship to pain that I don't understand. Especially the Finns and Canadians.

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