Read about your new rifle. Bought a Rem 700SS 5R milspec .308 myself recently, first heavy barrel rifle for me. Going to use it for F-Class competition at my club. Try her out at 300 yards next week.
Got the Badger Ordnance 20MOA rail and the Burris Xtreme Tactical rings (low height) like you (very solid rings for a good price; the Badger rings were $150) for my Leupold Mark 4 4.5-14X 40mm LR/T scope. Are you going to lap your rings? It took me two days to finish those Burris rings. Never had done it before. Sore arms!
I'll be interested to hear how you like the Bore Coat.
The medium height Burris rings should give enough clearance for your 50mm scope.
I'm way behind. I just now made my Ammo Day purchase (Hornady LnL AP). So now I'm plotting my evil BAG day purchase-something in .454 Casull. Or maybe something mousy by Kel-Tec or Ruger. I need both.
I'm no expert but before this rifle I had never bothered with lapping rings. But those Burris Rings are one inch deep with six Torx-15 screws per ring. Make sure you mark the rings before taking them apart. Borrow someone's lapping kit (I used a friend's Wheeler kit) and see how well the rings align on your base. The concern as I understand it is distortion of the optical image due to bending of the scope tube. My friend (who has the same scope and rifle as you) was able to lap his Badger Ordnance rings in 2-3 hours. Let us know what you decide.
Yup, it's still me buying it. Even if I wasn't getting some of my taxes back from the gubmint, I'd still be buying it.
There was a bit of tongue-in-cheek involved, ya see. It's sorta nice to think of the gubmint buying me a nice 1911, even though we all know the truth of it.
If you're going to shoot nothing but long-range, the 8.5-25 makes sense, but you need a good spotting scope to go along with it, because it's hard to find targets even at 8.5X unless they're the size of a barn.
I shot Joe's "Spud gun" at the last Rendezvous, and I had a hard time finding that big steel plate at 900 yards unless I cranked the scope power way down first.
Just a word, here...the training cadre at Boomershoot will tell you that TOO MUCH magnification can be a bad thing. Why? Because large magnifications raise the apparent "wiggle" from your inevitable biological processes (breathing, pulse), making it MUCH harder to focus on finding the sweet spot between your respiratory pause and trigger break and aligned sights. I found that as long as I could see the targets at Boomershoot, I could hit them; I didn't need to see the whole thing up tight and close. White cardboard boxes aren't really that hard to spot (except for some "hidies" those cruel b--tards would put out there :) ) 6X was fine, and helped to show the wind bending the grass for windage. With enough practice, I'd bet you'd find you'll do most of your shooting at Q targets and the like below 10X....10X and up IMHO is for bullseye targets so you can spot your holes and make adjustments. Nice scope, though!
Precision rifle shooters like high-magnification scopes - for a reason. If USCitizen wants to shoot little groups at 1,200+ yards with a .50, then 25X is not contraindicated.
But you're right. 10X is generally adequate for most long-range shooting. I just wanted a little bit more than that, myself.
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Read about your new rifle. Bought a Rem 700SS 5R milspec .308 myself recently, first heavy barrel rifle for me. Going to use it for F-Class competition at my club. Try her out at 300 yards next week.
Got the Badger Ordnance 20MOA rail and the Burris Xtreme Tactical rings (low height) like you (very solid rings for a good price; the Badger rings were $150) for my Leupold Mark 4 4.5-14X 40mm LR/T scope. Are you going to lap your rings? It took me two days to finish those Burris rings. Never had done it before. Sore arms!
I'll be interested to hear how you like the Bore Coat.
The medium height Burris rings should give enough clearance for your 50mm scope.
I'm way behind. I just now made my Ammo Day purchase (Hornady LnL AP). So now I'm plotting my evil BAG day purchase-something in .454 Casull. Or maybe something mousy by Kel-Tec or Ruger. I need both.
Noel:
Is lapping the rings really worth it? I hadn't planned on it.
Kevin:
My understanding it's how it's Supposed To Be Done, but you can get by these days without it.
I've never lapped rings, and I've got some sub-MOA guns. They lack a sub-MOA shooter, but that's another story.
Kevin,
I'm no expert but before this rifle I had never bothered with lapping rings. But those Burris Rings are one inch deep with six Torx-15 screws per ring. Make sure you mark the rings before taking them apart. Borrow someone's lapping kit (I used a friend's Wheeler kit) and see how well the rings align on your base. The concern as I understand it is distortion of the optical image due to bending of the scope tube. My friend (who has the same scope and rifle as you) was able to lap his Badger Ordnance rings in 2-3 hours. Let us know what you decide.
Looks nice! My only "scope" is the Aimpoint - and an old-old Weaver (?) I found at a grage sale...
I'm waiting for my gubmint check. It's gonna buy me a nice 1911 Kimber.
I'm waiting for my gubmint check. It's gonna buy me a nice 1911 Kimber.
If you're referring to your prebate, it's still you buying it.
Or did you decide the life of a [Graeme] Frost was for you?
Yup, it's still me buying it. Even if I wasn't getting some of my taxes back from the gubmint, I'd still be buying it.
There was a bit of tongue-in-cheek involved, ya see. It's sorta nice to think of the gubmint buying me a nice 1911, even though we all know the truth of it.
Thanks for the mention!
The Commercial Site loves traffic.
Kevin,
I, myself was thinking of a scope purchase.
What are your thoughts
on 4.5 x 14
vs 8.5 x 25
?
Not for tactical use, but definitely long range (600 - ?,000 yards) on a Barrett.
If you're going to shoot nothing but long-range, the 8.5-25 makes sense, but you need a good spotting scope to go along with it, because it's hard to find targets even at 8.5X unless they're the size of a barn.
I shot Joe's "Spud gun" at the last Rendezvous, and I had a hard time finding that big steel plate at 900 yards unless I cranked the scope power way down first.
"... I had a hard time finding that big steel plate at 900 yards unless I cranked the scope power way down first."
But, but, don't criminals hijack cars and such with 'em all the time? Golly. Whadda they know that we don't?
Just a word, here...the training cadre at Boomershoot will tell you that TOO MUCH magnification can be a bad thing. Why? Because large magnifications raise the apparent "wiggle" from your inevitable biological processes (breathing, pulse), making it MUCH harder to focus on finding the sweet spot between your respiratory pause and trigger break and aligned sights. I found that as long as I could see the targets at Boomershoot, I could hit them; I didn't need to see the whole thing up tight and close. White cardboard boxes aren't really that hard to spot (except for some "hidies" those cruel b--tards would put out there :) ) 6X was fine, and helped to show the wind bending the grass for windage. With enough practice, I'd bet you'd find you'll do most of your shooting at Q targets and the like below 10X....10X and up IMHO is for bullseye targets so you can spot your holes and make adjustments. Nice scope, though!
Precision rifle shooters like high-magnification scopes - for a reason. If USCitizen wants to shoot little groups at 1,200+ yards with a .50, then 25X is not contraindicated.
But you're right. 10X is generally adequate for most long-range shooting. I just wanted a little bit more than that, myself.
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